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Particles recorded moving faster than light: CERN
Reuters ^ | September 22, 2011 | Robert Evans

Posted on 09/22/2011 12:16:56 PM PDT by John W

An international team of scientists has recorded neutrino particles traveling faster than the speed of light, a spokesman for the researchers said on Thursday -- in what could be a challenge to one of the fundamental rules of physics.

If confirmed, the discovery would overturn a key part of Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that nothing in the universe can travel faster than light.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cern; fasterthanlight; neutrino; speedoflight
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To: John W

If this pans out, does this mean the “luminiferous ether” is back as a possibility?


21 posted on 09/22/2011 12:30:55 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Stosh

hahahaha!Oh my, that was good!


22 posted on 09/22/2011 12:31:24 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: DManA

Wouldn’t their mass depend on the size of the church?


23 posted on 09/22/2011 12:31:24 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: Mr. K

But what about light itself?

Light has mass, not much but enough to be affected by gravity.


24 posted on 09/22/2011 12:32:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Mr. K
Neutrinos have mass, light doesn't.

By the way, the solution to the solar neutrino problem is the greatest scientific advance of the 21st century so far.

25 posted on 09/22/2011 12:32:37 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: John W

What type of meter/gauge does one use for this purpose?


26 posted on 09/22/2011 12:34:00 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: John W
I just read a book about entangled particles (Entanglement) and much of it was about how the entangled particles destroy Einstein's ideas about locality, since they "know" what the other particle is doing instantaneously, no matter the distance apart.

So much of that book was about the light speed limit. Everything in physics is about the light speed limit in some way.

Just about everything is out the window if the speed limit of light is more of a recommendation than a rule.

27 posted on 09/22/2011 12:34:00 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mr. K

Neutrinos have a very small but non zero mass.

If they can go faster than light, they physicists have to start all over.


28 posted on 09/22/2011 12:34:39 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: cripplecreek

ummmm... then why is light bent and “pulled into” black holes?


29 posted on 09/22/2011 12:35:32 PM PDT by folkquest
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To: John W

If a train leaves Chicago, heading for New York traveling at 186,000 mi/sec, and another train leaves New York at the same time heading to Chicago traveling at 192,000 mi/sec, then.......oh never mind!


30 posted on 09/22/2011 12:35:43 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: John W

Those were YOUR 550 million dollars speeding into the black hole of Solyndra.


31 posted on 09/22/2011 12:37:34 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Lazamataz

That was my first thought. See if they can duplicate it multiple times.


32 posted on 09/22/2011 12:39:26 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Lazamataz

That was my first thought. See if they can duplicate it multiple times.


33 posted on 09/22/2011 12:39:26 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: JRandomFreeper
Since the spending generally occurs before the tax collection, you are looking at pre-causalty.

Time Travel is a reality - YOUR tax dollar is spent before it actually exists.

FUBO GTFO! 485 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013

34 posted on 09/22/2011 12:39:58 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
By the way, the solution to the solar neutrino problem is the greatest scientific advance of the 21st century so far.

You mean someone has found a way to use solar neutrinos to keep beer colder for longer periods of time ?

35 posted on 09/22/2011 12:40:19 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: GreenHornet

You’re talking about neutrainos, not neutrinos.


36 posted on 09/22/2011 12:42:29 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Neutrinos have mass, light doesn't.

Photons have mass.

37 posted on 09/22/2011 12:42:34 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Lazamataz

They repeated the measurement 15,000 times. The results are statistically significant. They cannot find an instrument error but state they cannot rule out systematic error and would be very happy if another lab repeated the experiment.


38 posted on 09/22/2011 12:43:47 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: folkquest
ummmm... then why is light bent and “pulled into” black holes?

In all seriousness, curvature of the space-time continuum.

39 posted on 09/22/2011 12:46:18 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: dangerdoc
Physics is not my area but wouldn't that tend to mean that E=MC^2 is not correct? Is it possible that the formula only works on particles that are effected by electromagnetic forces?
40 posted on 09/22/2011 12:50:10 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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