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OTC inhalers to be phased out to protect ozone layer
AP ^ | 9/22/2011 | MATTHEW PERRONE

Posted on 09/22/2011 11:41:44 AM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: LizardQueen
Used to be able to buy the albuterol inhalers that contained the CFC’s for about $4.00. The new non-CFC albuterol inhalers are almost 10 times as much.

And they don’t work as well. I have fairly severe asthma and the new non-CFC ones don’t seem to have enough “oomph” to push into my lungs when I’m having a bad attack. ...


Per the FDA: "It is important to remember that it is the deep breath that you take with each puff that gets the medication into your lungs, not the force of the spray."

Interesting advice for the FDA to give someone who taking medication because they can't breathe deeply.

Don't expect any help getting the CFC inhalers back because the following were given grants bribes to 'educate' you and your physician on the new inferior inhalers:
The American Lung Association (ALA)
The Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America (AAFA
) The Allergy and Asthma Network Mothers of Asthmatics (AANMA)
The American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (AAAAI)
The American Academy of Pediatrics
The American Association for Respiratory Care (AARC)
The American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (ACAAI)
The American College of Chest Physicians (ACCP)
The American Thoracic Society (ATS)
Allergy and Asthma Network Mothers of Asthmatics
Crony Capitalism at work!
61 posted on 09/23/2011 11:13:44 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: FreedomPoster; Red Badger; backhoe
There are a number of people out there who are convinced that the whole thing was a scam because the patents were running out on the common CFC refrigerants. R-11, R-12, R-22, etc.

I think backhoe is one of them.

I have my doubts about the matter as well.

We certainly shot ourselves in the foot on air conditioning energy efficiency on the changeover.


backhoe and others are correct. Amazing coincidence that the patents were running out presenting an opportunity for the interests of PC and crony capitalism to merge.
62 posted on 09/23/2011 11:19:49 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj; FreedomPoster; backhoe

http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/refrigerant_history.php


63 posted on 09/23/2011 11:34:56 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: UCANSEE2
Is yours one of the new Prescription only inhalers using Albuterol?

Yep. I had to get something. The local stores are running out of Primatene Mist.

64 posted on 09/23/2011 12:12:05 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: CSM
This should probably result in lower health care costs.....

How so?

65 posted on 09/23/2011 12:16:10 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Sarajevo

I could have sworn that I didn’t need a sarcasm tag. I figured that since we are living in bizarro world and all....


66 posted on 09/23/2011 12:29:08 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: FreedomPoster
There are a number of people out there who are convinced that the whole thing was a scam because the patents were running out on the common CFC refrigerants. R-11, R-12, R-22, etc.

There was a book published in the early nineties called, "The Holes in the Ozone Scare," that pretty much said the CFC/Ozone hole thing was a scam.

67 posted on 09/23/2011 12:34:04 PM PDT by saminfl
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To: Red Badger; FreedomPoster; backhoe; saminfl

Note the time line beginning in 1974 in this backgrounder from Dupont. I could only download via wayback:

http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://refrigerants.dupont.com/Suva/en_US/pdf/75_years.pdf

“Still the leading global supplier of refrigerants for the commercial and industrial air conditioning and refrigeration industries, DuPont begins its own studies for alternative refrigerants after questions arise about possible harmful effects of fluorocarbons on the stratospheric ozone.

Moline and Rowland publish ozone depletion theory in 1974.

Noted in Red Badger’s link.
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/refrigerant_history.php

A manufacturing patent for Freon was due to expire in 1979.


68 posted on 09/23/2011 1:15:42 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj
A manufacturing patent for Freon was due to expire in 1979.

IIRC, that was a manufacturing PROCESS patent, not a patent on the Freon itself, which had expired decades earlier......

69 posted on 09/23/2011 1:18:08 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Graybeard58

I was assuming that one already has a relationship with the doctor. Sorry.

My asthma days are long-gone but my childhood/teen years were miserable because of it.It’s one tough illness.No inhalers in my day,but I had a glass nebulizer,a real pain in the neck.

The asthma just went away when I was 22.


70 posted on 09/23/2011 1:30:32 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Red Badger; algernonpj

OK, so it wasn’t the patent on the substance, but the patent to make the substance economically. The effect of that patent running out would have been that Dupont was going to see significant new competition.


71 posted on 09/23/2011 2:42:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mount Athos

Lehman Brothers was heavily invested in Wind and Solar and was one of the reasons why it went under.


72 posted on 09/24/2011 1:02:23 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Why are you spamming every thread with that same post?


73 posted on 09/24/2011 1:13:06 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fresh Wind

To get the truth out. wake up people !


74 posted on 09/24/2011 2:12:30 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Sarajevo
Then I thank you for your response and that information. What I would be concerned about is the Obama Admin adding extra 'duties' to the German brand to force patients to buy their inhalers from new 'start up' company that contributes to the DNC and got special loans and deals to take over the markent, and then they somehow file bankruptcy.

Of course, I am merely speculating because this type of thing has never happened before..... (/sarc).

75 posted on 09/24/2011 5:53:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Mount Athos; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...
But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60.

Kill the poor.

Nanny State PING!

76 posted on 09/24/2011 6:09:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Mount Athos

Wanna bet the improved inhalers do not work as well?


77 posted on 09/24/2011 6:12:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ExLax ... worked great.. FDA took off market
Alka Seltzer Plus ... worked great .. FDA took off market
Sudafed... works great.. gotta sign life away to buy it ...DEA
Inhalers... work great ... EPA take off market

Seeing a pattern here???

EFFEMALL!!!!!


78 posted on 09/24/2011 6:40:24 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (islam ... Cult of the DAMNED!!!)
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To: Sarajevo
Then I thank you for your response and that information. What I would be concerned about is the Obama Admin adding extra 'duties' to the German brand to force patients to buy their inhalers from new 'start up' company that contributes to the DNC and got special loans and deals to take over the markent, and then they somehow file bankruptcy.

Of course, I am merely speculating because this type of thing has never happened before..... (/sarc).

79 posted on 09/24/2011 6:54:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jeepers. Thanks for the ping!


80 posted on 09/24/2011 9:06:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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