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To: little jeremiah; LowOiL
Same offer I made to Winter and Trisham

Great I agree with you 100%, we will close all of the Public schools next Friday, Will you be ready with your charter school Monday morning? How about you take the offer I have made to wintertime, and that she has refused time after time. I will give you a list of about 15-20 students at my school and you take them for 1 year and prove to me how good your theories are.

Unless you are willing to do that you have nothing to say NOTHING!

256 posted on 09/24/2011 6:54:48 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga; trisham; wintertime

You’re out of your mind. So wintertime, trisham and I must under coercion take 15 to 20 of your students, or we have no right to say anything.

I have home schooled not only my own children but helped home school many others. I taught kids to read using my own invented materials very quickly and children enjoyed learning when I taught them. But I’m sure that all means nothing to you. Oh, and when my kids did wing up going to public school for a year when I coudlnt’ teach them at home, they both entered the “gifted and talented” track or whatever it’s called because they were so far ahead of their grade. One was in the 95% of everything, the other was in the 95% of everything other than math.

The principal told me they’d likely have to be moved to a lower grade when I first enrolled them, since I was a high school dropout and did not use any regular cirriculum while home schooling. He was shocked beyond belief when he saw how academcally advanced they were.

Sounds to me as though you’re eaten up with something.


261 posted on 09/24/2011 7:02:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: verga
I will give you a list of about 15-20 students at my school and you take them for 1 year and prove to me how good your theories are.

We homeschool 4 very normal boys. I will match them up to any average score (even top 20%) of any grade you teach. One son was slow to read, but we waited for him to come into his own a year later and he has accelerated like a trooper (he was always ahead of his grade in math as all my boys were).

That said, do I understand that teachers have problems with students. Yes I sure do. I think the breakdown of the family unit has grandmothers raising kids they should never have had to raise. They are at wits end. I think kids are given an attitude of just doing time at schools. I think gang influence and drugs can make teaching a child near impossible. I think the whole structure of schools where teachers are given no respect from their students is a lose lose situation.

There comes a point where you lose a child's respect. All you can do is make them respect your rules. Teachers are given near impossible standards to achieve and few tools to keep the students in line enough to teach them. Could I teach those 15-20 students any better than you. Yes, but not under the same rules you are given. Like I stated earlier the only option left after losing respect is to still be able to enforce rules to live within. To teach those trouble students would require one to be able to control all aspects of that child's life. From morning rise to sunset bed, a strict regiment of control would have to be enforced. It would be like the army, and love would at first seem a far distant light. Even so, some that are hardened like steel would be a total loss. They would do the minimum required and tough their time out.

That is why it is important to grab children young. The sooner parents lose control of their children, the easier to mold children in a godless society. I think given the results of public schools, if given a choice of being to pick where to send your children (to private instead) at a young age, so many would choose private over public that the system of failure would collapse.

Please forgive typos and spelling, I am not allowed to teach English to the boys, lol. Wife is head of that department. Math and Science is my dept. (w/ lots of elective gun target shooting). I play the job of respect keeper also. The boy's momma is to be respected above and beyond duty. There is no backtalk and it works like a charm in this household.

That said, I do understand a teacher's task is not an easy one. I still believe that public schools with the help of the breakdown of the family set kids up for failure. It would be nice to have that money I am taxed to use toward my kids education without having it decided for me. I could definitely better spend it than the government has. On average people are taxed around 12k per child in public school. One classroom of say 28 children is 784k per year. Do I think a quarter of million in private education situations would be better spent. Yes would be my answer.

284 posted on 09/25/2011 4:20:04 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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