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To: Lazamataz; All

If a powerful church says that a king has his rights because God says so, how is this not political.

I have no desire for Islam to have free reign in US politics. In fact given the kinds of things (hatred, etc.) the Wahabbi oriented/Saudi financed mosques are reported to be teaching in some places here, I wonder why they are not being charged with contributing to the delinquency of minors.


33 posted on 09/22/2011 10:11:09 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
If a powerful church says that a king has his rights because God says so, how is this not political.

Wow, you just dig your heels in, donchya?

Here is an explanation, by Muslims, that explains how you are comparing apples to oranges:

The Separation of Institutional Religion & the State
As we have mentioned, in Islam God is acknowledged the sole sovereign of human affairs, so there has never been a distinction between religious and state authority. In Christendom, the distinction between the two authorities are said to be based upon records in the New Testament of Jesus, asking his followers to render unto Caesar what was his and unto God what was His. Therefore throughout Christian history until the present times, there have always been two authorities: ‘God and Caesar’, or ‘the church and state.’ Each had its own laws and jurisdictions, each its own structure and hierarchy. In the pre-westernized Islamic world there were never two powers, and the question of separation never arose. The distinction so deeply rooted in Christendom between church and state has never existed in Islam."

So, as you can see by the above reference, Christianity -- by the words of it's founder -- disavows itself of the responsibilities of the State, outright. The fact that some Kings and/or Popes and/or Bishops lied about it, has no bearing on the facts of the matter.

On the other hand, Muslim authorities, Imams and Scholars, will tell you that when they say Islam, they also mean they intend to overthrow the State machinery and replace it with theirs. The Koran states quite clearly that Islam is a total way of life, and political systems and bodies of law are no exception.

Therefore, if you permit Islam to run roughshod unopposed in America, you essentially are condoning an eventual change to Sharia law and the political systems related to it (the Caliphate).

As I stated before, if it had occured to Hitler to include a strong religious component -- Nazism as a complete religion -- not only would he have been far more successful, Nazism would have persisted much more than in does today, and people who take your viewpoint might actually defend it's protection.

36 posted on 09/23/2011 7:01:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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