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To: Ghost of Jesus Gil

This is incredibly stupid!
1. Any evidence of molten aluminum that “flowed” through the buildings? No
2. Chemical change between aluminum and water??? Nothing dramatic - aluminum oxide maybe - harmless
3. Molten metal + water = rapid steam generation. When confined or when inside molten metal, the steam causes “explosions” - No mystery - happens with molten lead, zinc, steel etc.
Theories this lame can only come from dillusional non-scientists.


12 posted on 09/21/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: bossmechanic
This is incredibly stupid!
1. Any evidence of molten aluminum that “flowed” through the buildings? No
2. Chemical change between aluminum and water??? Nothing dramatic - aluminum oxide maybe - harmless
3. Molten metal + water = rapid steam generation. When confined or when inside molten metal, the steam causes “explosions” - No mystery - happens with molten lead, zinc, steel etc.
Theories this lame can only come from dillusional non-scientists.

From the article:

Additionally, Simensen added that “The aluminium industry has reported more than 250 aluminium-water explosions since 1980. Alcoa Aluminium carried out an experiment under controlled conditions, in which 20 kilos of aluminium smelt were allowed to react with 20 kilos of water, to which some rust was added. The explosion destroyed the entire laboratory and left a crater 30 metres in diameter.”

So, I guess who is delusional depends on whether Alcoa really carried out such an experiment with the result described.

17 posted on 09/21/2011 11:00:00 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: bossmechanic
This is incredibly stupid!

Agreed! You only need to look even conceptually at the mass and heat capacity of the aircraft hull embedded in each building vs the mass and heat capacity of the buildings themselves and the venting paths available, and you know that this is indeed a crackpot theory promoted by a crackpot non-scientist trying to generate some personal publicity.

20 posted on 09/21/2011 11:04:46 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: bossmechanic

It’s amazing how people who think they know something come up with such boffos as “dillusional” [sic].


22 posted on 09/21/2011 11:57:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: bossmechanic

Erm, no. Aluminum + Iron oxide (from the building)= thermite, which burns hot enough to dissociate water into its atomic components. At that point, the oxygen just contributes to the burn. I’m not a chemist, but I know enough about thermite and oxidizers to posit that there might be something to this theory. Metal fires are very real, and can be really ugly things.


24 posted on 09/22/2011 12:18:13 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: bossmechanic
1. Any evidence of molten aluminum that “flowed” through the buildings? No

I don't know about that one. This past 9/11 I decided to watch History Channel's "102 Minutes that Changed America" (un-narrated running footage mostly from individuals who had camcorders) instead of the ceremonies.

One set of footage did show molten something or other - a lot of it - pouring out of a hole in a corner of one of the towers a couple/few floors below the impact point. I've seen lots of the WTC footage over the last 10 years (let's face it, all of us have) and had was really struck by how I'd never seen that piece before.
30 posted on 09/22/2011 2:59:27 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: bossmechanic

Do these people seem “dillusional?” This pdf takes a bit of time do load but it is worth reading.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDAQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pyrotek.info%2Fdocuments%2Finsight_newsletter%2FAluminium_Insight_2011-02_Wise_Chem-Explosions.pdf&rct=j&q=alcoa%20lab%20explosion&ei=-Qd7Toa-Gs-utwfWp6QJ&usg=AFQjCNGDEbof_yzsT7yQ4WmLZOOFvYb_IQ&cad=rja


31 posted on 09/22/2011 3:08:15 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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