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These misguided "Conservatives" are continuing their attack on E-verify. E-verify is a great system and is supported by the majority of Conservatives and Tea Party members. With friends like this, who needs enemies?
1 posted on 09/21/2011 10:04:14 AM PDT by tedw
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E-verify under attack


2 posted on 09/21/2011 10:06:33 AM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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I read about this yesterday. I don’t understand their opposition at all.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 10:07:50 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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I don't get this, either. These 30 or so TP "leaders" seem to be claiming all kinds of our civil liberties will be effected with E-Verify legislation. Well, my civil liberties are being violated with the influx of illegals and associated costs (medical, education, welfare, etc.).

Until the gov't does their job, someone has to.

4 posted on 09/21/2011 10:08:54 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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This makes no sense at all. Something here stinks.

I don’t buy it.


5 posted on 09/21/2011 10:11:27 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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Not long ago I read that Obama’s SS got rejected by E Verify - related? I wouldn’t put anything past the Kenyan usurper.


6 posted on 09/21/2011 10:13:42 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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I wonder if this has anything to do with someone using E-Verify to find out that Obama’s Social Security Number does not qualify him to work in the USA


7 posted on 09/21/2011 10:16:59 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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I’d expect Dick Armey and his FreedomWorks “tea party” might be behind this. GOP Texans are a major, major problem for the GOP, the tea party and the country.

Texas has the easiest big business donating to campaigns and Texas is rife with companies that have been making a fortune off of cheap illegal labor—while the rest of us taxpayers pick up the tab for it.

I don’t see FreedomWorks actually listed there, but believe me, this has been a top priority behind Armey’s involvement in this whole movement. There’s likely some backdoor funding or other incentives behind the scenes.

(And no, I’ve no proof at all.)


9 posted on 09/21/2011 10:27:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Everybody on the thread listen up!
The devil is in the details.

There is nothing wrong with E-Verify, although some of these listed opponents are “conservatives” who actually still want cheap labor. That is hypocrisy, but it is not the defect in this bill. Some of the others are libertarians who don’t want government in anything.

The real defect in this bill and the reason it must be defeated, is that the Chamber of Commerce lobbyists who wrote it have hidden deeply inside it a pre-emption clause that would invalidate all state and local laws passed to control illegal immigration because the feds won’t.

If passed, those laws in Arizona, Georgia, Prince William County Virginia, etc., will be voided. Right now, the only controls on illegal immigration are these state and local laws. The Republican Establishment and the Wall Street Journal and the Chamber of Commerce can’t tolerate these local laws interfering with agenda for open borders and cheap labor. And they think they can sell this law as a control on illegal immigration when in effect it is means of stopping existing controls, knowing that the feds will never enforce immigration laws, even this E-Verify attempt.

This law is a lie. It needs to die.


10 posted on 09/21/2011 10:33:45 AM PDT by oldbill
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ACLU is against E-verify too.

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

More on EVerify:
http://www.cis.org/Everify


11 posted on 09/21/2011 10:35:20 AM PDT by WOSG
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What is the agricultural exemption in this bill?


14 posted on 09/21/2011 10:42:15 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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Yes, Ted, but with Section 6 in place, this bill is an exercise in futility. We support this bill, but not with the Chamber of Commerce and ImmigrationWorksUSA-authored fig leaf Section 6 to stop Arizona, Alabama and others from punishing employers. the lesson of Obama’s amnesty decree is that the Executive branch cannot be trusted to enforce immigration laws in this nation. Bush and Obama both have made them political footballs as the nation’s workers and legitimate businesses have suffered.


15 posted on 09/21/2011 10:42:55 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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For your reference, here is one of the key provisions of this law, and the reason it must die. If Rep Lamar Smith were honest, he would cut this provision out, but it was written in by the Chamber of Commerce lobbyists who insist it remains in it:

SEC. 6. PREEMPTION.

Section 274A(h)(2) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1324a(h)(2)) is amended to read as follows:

(2) PREEMPTION- The provisions of this section preempt any State or local law, ordinance, policy, or rule, including any criminal or civil fine or penalty structure, insofar as they may now or hereafter relate to the hiring, continued employment, or status verification for employment eligibility purposes, of unauthorized aliens.

By the way, it it is also a de facto amnesty for those illegals already hired, if you read the text concerning "continued employment". So anybody already on your rolls is exempted from this law, and don't think employers will not come up with magical papers showing their employees were already hired.

19 posted on 09/21/2011 10:47:03 AM PDT by oldbill
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http://takebackwashington.org/Clint_s_Open_Letter_html.html

If you read the letter they wrote, you conclude that they are full of beans.

- no national ID card
- NO civil rights issues, less intrusive than existing law
- claim it will increase ID theft are illogical and baseless
- ‘harm’ to economy. why? well, because illegals wont get hired!
- etc


27 posted on 09/21/2011 11:21:03 AM PDT by WOSG
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Google is your friend. It appears Donna Wiesner Keene, a Washington insider who served for 8 years under Bush43 is about as establishment as you can get, yet she claims to represent the Tea Party.

If the name Keene sounds familiar, she's married to David Keene, faux conservative and whore extraordinaire.

“Donna Wiesner Keene is CEO of BrainTrain, a business specializing in marketing and communicating political ideas and projects. BrainTrain works with executives and lobbyists to propel ideas toward policy-makers and ordinary citizens. In the 107th Congress, Mrs. Keene lobbied for fundamental tax reform for the Coalition for Fundamental Tax Reform, a coalition she helped grow to represent more than 8 million citizens.

In the second Bush Administration, she worked in disability policy from early intervention to No Child Left Behind to Rehabilitation for the U.S. Department of Education. In the first Bush Administration, as Director of the Executive Secretariat for the Department, she represented the Secretary and Deputy Secretary on the Total Quality Management Task Force, and chaired the Information Technology Committee. She also served as a Reagan Administration Special Assistant for Intergovernmental Affairs in the Office of Secretary of Labor Bill Brock, where she focused on labor issues.”

30 posted on 09/21/2011 11:48:11 AM PDT by bwc2221
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