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>> You do claim to know the RINOs. Their flip flop shows no conservatism — in any sense. And Gov. Palin’s record is a heck of an improvement
over the Rove-derived RINOs Mitt and Rick. >>

I only claim to know what the original intent of the term was - and it was more directed at Republicans who trashed other Republicans. Now by definition, that means it would be the more liberal Republicans - but it was their social climbing with the media by way of trashing their own party that was the definitive trait.

And flip flops are one thing - true change of hearts and minds is another - and I admitted to not knowing which was which all the time and I think you are on thin ice if you deign to always know. I admit, sometimes it is obvious.

And Palin’s record versus Rove and Mitt and Rick is very good indeed. But those three folks cannot stand each other and lumping them together is not politically accurate. I would call Rove an establishment Republican and a soul less opportunist more than a RINO though he has RINO traits. I would call Mitt hard to pin down and a flawed and unreliable conservative, but he rarely trashes the base or other Republicans. Perry is a conservative with flaws and red flags, but IMO not a RINO either.

Not everyone not named Sarah Palin or Jesus is a RINO. They can just be flawed. And FTR, Palin’s stance on unions is left of all of the three folks above. It’s about my only problem with her.


98 posted on 09/21/2011 10:52:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Jim Robinson; ConjunctionJunction; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; ...
C. Edmund Wright:" I would call Mitt hard to pin down and a flawed and unreliable conservative, but he rarely trashes the base or other Republicans."

You are clearly lost, Newbie. Are you looking for a comedy forum?

First, RINO flip-flop Romney is NOT conservative.

Second, the well-disliked Romney is Obama's minime:

Third, Gov. Palin is well to the far RIGHT of the RINO Romney.

And Romney is world's biggest GOP backstabber.


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



105 posted on 09/21/2011 11:56:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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