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Art Cashin On The Populist 'Millionaire Tax' And The Lessons Of History
Business Insider ^ | Sep. 19, 2011 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 09/19/2011 10:38:29 AM PDT by george76

The take from UBS floor guy Art Cashin probably perfectly sums up the Wall Street take on the new millionaire tax.

The Millionaire’s Tax - Three Observations - The expected proposal by the President to tax annual income above a million dollars may be too cute by half. It clearly looks like a “populist” initiative and a clever political maneuver

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it looks so much like an “in your face” political challenge to his opponents, that may have evaporated all that talk about “constructive compromise”

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Third, the proposal flies in the face of the lessons of history. According to the Tax Foundation, after the 1929 crash, Congress proceeded to raise the top marginal tax rate from 25% to 63% by the end of Hoover’s term ... As you may recall, hiking those rates may have made folks feel that rates were more equitable but it sure didn’t help the economy

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: artcashin; cashin

1 posted on 09/19/2011 10:38:35 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Congress proceeded to raise the top marginal tax rate from 25% to 63% by the end of Hoover’s term .

P>And...the money fled the country at the speed of light. Millionaires are not dumb. They know how to and will protect their fortunes. Its the 'little guy' who is Obama's target once again. Marxists NEVER give up. They will persist until the end of time or until they are all converted. Guess which will occur first.

2 posted on 09/19/2011 10:53:58 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

During the FDR Dictatorship, his brain trust decided that no one needed more than $25K to live. Thus those that made more must pay their fair share, sound familiar?


3 posted on 09/19/2011 11:02:08 AM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: george76

I am strongly in favor of raising taxes on individuals (not couples) making a million a year or more.

And I am in favor of significantly raising taxes on capital gains, if the capital sum is large enough.

And taxes on the super rich must be raised to a draconian level.

But leave the rest of us—those who really work for a living—alone.

In fact, reduce the income tax on those making less than a million a year.

But one more thing: inlfation needs to be provided for—no longer should the government raise taxes on a certain bracket, and then not elevate that bracket when inflation puts more taxpayers into that bracket.


4 posted on 09/19/2011 11:15:00 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
But leave the rest of us—those who really work for a living—alone.

I think the height of stupidity is people who think that they work harder to make $50k than an entrepreneur works to make $1,000,000, and yet, they, for some strange reason, don't take the easy way out and just make the simple $1,000,000.

5 posted on 09/19/2011 11:28:18 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: Age of Reason
Commandment 10: You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

So, you think God got the covetousness thing wrong, do ya'?

Do not blather on how your attitude is not based in greed, look instead into your own heart for the truth.

6 posted on 09/19/2011 11:48:29 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (How will the Rats keep power? They cheat!)
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To: Age of Reason
“I am strongly in favor of raising taxes on individuals (not couples) making a million a year or more.”

Why? How much of their income do you feel you are entitled to take? And why are you entitled to their money?

“And taxes on the super rich must be raised to a draconian level.”

Why again are you entitled to someone else’s property?

“And I am in favor of significantly raising taxes on capital gains, if the capital sum is large enough.”

Again why?
Define the “rest of us”. Are you not in favor of people owning a business and building that up?

I'm shocked to see someone post a very left of center opinion here on FR.
I don't get it.
Conservatives are for a smaller government. We want to be left alone. And we don't covet others property. And we don't believe in “spreading the wealth around”.

7 posted on 09/19/2011 12:00:23 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Onelifetogive
I think the height of stupidity is people who think that they work harder to make $50k than an entrepreneur works to make $1,000,000.

The hardest working people in America are among those who clean other people's toilet bowls for minimum wage.

8 posted on 09/19/2011 12:34:31 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: george76
Remember the luxury yacht tax in the 1990s which put a 10% excise tax on boats costing over $100,000? The tax raised at most a paltry $25 million in new revenue but caused a major decline in the boating industry in the United States. The wealthy just bought their boats overseas and US businesses suffered. Note John Kerry's 76 ft. yacht was made in New Zealand.

The class warfare group fails to understand that the wealthy spend their money and provide employment for us poor schmucks. Tax the wealthy and if they don't take their money overseas they quit buying luxury cars, eating in high end restaurants, staying at posh hotels, hiring people to mow their yards etc. This means a loss of jobs for a lot of common people.

9 posted on 09/19/2011 1:58:58 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Age of Reason

There is a whole TV show on “dirty jobs” all of which need to be done. Lots of important, but thankless jobs are done by lots of people - some pay little others a lot. What does that have to with anything?

In a market economy, it is supply and demand. The market place determines to pay for jobs. But again, not sure what this has to do with greedy Americans coveting other people’s wealth and using the force of government to steal it.


10 posted on 09/19/2011 2:05:28 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: The Great RJ

BINGO!!


11 posted on 09/19/2011 2:20:08 PM PDT by BillM
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To: Age of Reason

>>> The hardest working people in America are among those who clean other people’s toilet bowls for minimum wage. >>>

NO, the hardest working people in America are entrepreneurs who work 100 hour weeks in the early stages of their business - often with ZERO pay - in hopes that one day they’ll have enough money to make you jealous.


12 posted on 09/19/2011 2:25:22 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Little Bill

$25K in the 1930s might be roughly equivalent to $250K now (I haven’t checked the Consumer Price Index), the figure Obama constantly throws out. Of course he doesn’t threaten to take 100% of income over $250,000 since Democrats and tax lawyers would be disproportionately affected.


13 posted on 09/19/2011 2:43:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: C. Edmund Wright
NO, the hardest working people in America are entrepreneurs who work 100 hour weeks in the early stages of their business - often with ZERO pay - in hopes that one day they’ll have enough money to make you jealous.

I've had my own business for forty years--which I started from scratch.

I am not super rich, but I do make more money than the vast majority of Americans.

I sit behind a desk in a climate controlled office telling other people what to do.

People who clean toilets work harder than me.

So bug off.

14 posted on 10/01/2011 10:55:27 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

Bug off? This thread is weeks and weeks old.

But no one believes your BS anyway.


15 posted on 10/02/2011 5:09:32 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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