“They are also giving It to boys now. I will not hesitate to have my sons vaccinated against this disease.”
That is your choice, and probably the prudent thing to do. These vaccinations are probably useful and serve a purpose.
However, no one is “forcing, coercing, or tricking” you to do so! Perry’s idea was to force it (don’t buy the “opt out” talk). On FR, at least in the past, folks are very irate about “nanny-state” policies. This HPV issue in Texas is “nanny-state” at its best. Giving vaccinations against a venereal disease to children that “may” be exposed to a viruse in the future, that “may” cause them to develope cancer later in life....? That is “Nanny-State”, and something that FREEPERS claim to hate.
Let’s take it a step further and force all teens to be tested for venereal diseases and force them to receive treatment. Do you want your government (at any level) to do that?
Also, all this talk about the number of women dying from cervical cancer is fogging the real issue of parental & personal choice in regards to medical matters. IF we are so concerned about eradicating cancer, then let’s ban smoking and all tobacco products from the U.S. The American Cancer Associations says:
Lung cancer is the most preventable form of cancer death in our society. (Source: Cancer Facts and Figures 2011)
Lung cancer estimates for 2011 (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2011):
New cases of lung cancer: 221,130
Males: 115,060
Females: 106,070
Deaths from lung cancer: 156,940
Males: 85,600
Females: 71,340
Now I triple dog dare you to advocate the complete banning of tobacco. That is “Nanny-State.” While your at it, go after alcohol as well....think of the deaths to would be prevented from disease and accidents with no alchohol in society? Once again, this is a “Nanny-State” position.
In 2008 I watched this forum pillor Mike Huckabee over some things he did as Governor in Arkansas as “Nanny-State.” Why should Perry get a pass on this? He should not. Should it keep you from voting for him....that I cannot answer...you have to decide that issue. However, his attempts to mandate this vaccine was “Nanny-State” as one can get. Do you want this “Governor” to do the same thing at the federal level. Plus, he does seem to wrap himself in the 10th Ammendment when it is convenient....like in immigration....something that is not a state’s right to regulate.....although the federal government is definitely wrong on this as well.
Bottom line is that Michelle Bachmann is being pillored here by folks that should applaud her because she opposes “Nanny-State” policies. WHAT IS REALLY upsetting folks here in FR is that it hurt Perry...and showed he isn’t as conservative as portrayed....that is why folks are pounding on Bachmann. Granted she went over the top on the statement about mental retardation.
Folks...start thinking. Perry messed up on this issue. Stop defending his “Nanny-State” attempts. Support him if you will, but recognize this failing.
You have to remember the most susceptible members of society to this type of disease are the poor and lower middle classes. They are the most often involved in early sexual encounters and often early pregnancy and yes sexually transmitted diseases.
In order for an insurance company or Medicaid to pay for a vaccine it must be mandatory. This is why Perry signed the order. He allowed for an easy opt out. All you had to do was sign a form.
This is not nanny state. This is giving MORE choice to the lower end of society.
You and I may be able to afford to pay an additional $300 to vaccinate our children. A person living in poverty can not.
Google ‘pictures of Genital warts and cervical cancer’ look at the pictures. Realize that there are MANY carriers who do not know they have the HPV virus. Over 20 million in the U.S. now and growing. Your daughters fiancee may be one of them. He may have had a sexual history before he met her. She may have one you do not know about. This is reality.
Vaccines save lives. Ignorance and misinformation causes confusion which can lead to the death of people. People you may love.
If you do not want the Vaccine and live in TX, OPT OUT. Unfortunately the Legislature denied the opportunity of the poor and middle classes from getting this Vaccine in an affordable manner. Now more people will potentially be infected and more people will probably die.
Either way this is a LOSER of an issue for Bachman and I support her. She looks unscientific and uninformed. Perry also was week in his defense of his decision making.
If we want a conservative to be our standard bearer in 2012 we have limited options. I like Cain, but he is going no where. I like Bachman, but she needs more polish and better information with fewer gaffes. I like Santorum, but he has the problem of losing his Senate Seat in 2006 and is almost as right of center as I am. I also like Perry when the other option is Romney. No candidate is perfect, we have to hit Obama where he is vulnerable and not confuse people.
The candidate that is harping on Gardasil is in the weeds. They are arguing over who gets to drive the fire truck while the country burns. Stop argueing over foolishness and start putting out the fire before the whole society goes up in flames.