Posted on 09/17/2011 12:25:22 AM PDT by Kevmo
The Ultimate Ni-H Cold Fusion E-Cat Test
Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer), is planning multiple upcoming tests of his technology. These tests should provide even more confirmation that the E-Cat technology is valid. The coming weeks may not be pleasant for cynics!
One of the fifty-two 27-kW modules that make up the 1 MW unit.
Screen shot from video by Mats Lewan, Ny Teknik.
by Hank Mills
Pure Energy Systems News
The E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) technology is real and works. Several tests over the last year have proven that the technology is valid, beyond any reasonable doubt. Although many of the tests were not perfect, no reasonable statement can be made refuting the fact the technology works as claimed. Hardcore cynics and skeptics have continually tried to pick out flaws in the experiments, and create problems where none exist. However, everything considered and despite any flaws, the tests clearly indicated very large gains of energy.
Currently, there are multiple tests of the E-Cat being planned that will resolve any of the imperfections in previous tests and provide evidence that no one (except for paid trolls) will be able to criticize. In these tests, there will be long periods of operation in "self sustain mode" which will show "heat after death", meaning energy production after the input power has been turned off. "Heat after death" was already demonstrated to a limited degree during the recent test performed on an E-Cat by Mats Lewan of NyTeknik. Oddly, after only 35 minutes in self sustain mode, he asked for the test to be ended. The fact the test was ended so quickly is very frustrating. Even though the 35 minutes of heat production without any input was a clear indicator of a true nuclear effect, another hour or so in self sustain mode would have produced evidence *no one* could try to shoot down.
One of these tests will be performed on the one megawatt plant when it is launched in October, which will be operating in a mostly self sustaining mode. The one megawatt plant will be composed of 52 individual reactors that each contain multiple cores. The reactors are of a new design that we do not know much about, except that the amount of lead shielding has increased, the volume of water that can be held inside has increased, the power density per cubic centimeter has stayed the same (the last model could produce a maximum of 10kW per 50cc), and the surface area of the reactor has increased (this will improve the transfer of heat from the reactor to the water).
Many scientists will be present during the test of the one megawatt plant, along with representatives from the company that is purchasing the one megawatt unit. The location of the test is not yet known, because Rossi has stated the moment someone learns where the test will be held, the identity of the well-known, big-name partner company would be easy to figure out. This test should prove to the world once and for all that the technology works as claimed. Also, the test will stream live on the internet, and will include a live feed of a power meter measuring the input power.
It has also been revealed that along with the one megawatt plant, a 5 kW E-Cat heater for use in homes will be demonstrated and tested. This device will not directly heat water, but will utilize a closed system in which water is phase changed into steam and then reused. The heat from this closed system will be transmitted through a heat exchanger that will then heat water for the home. Andrea Rossi recently mentioned a test he has performed on such a system that produced 9 kilowatts of excess output. Source
Andrea Rossi
September 14th, 2011 at 2:05 AM
Dear Frank Acland:
I am referring to the small units for households too. We are very advanced. Yesterday we made a test with one of them, making hot water, we got a fantastic result. Very satisfied. What we did is make steam, exchange heat with a heating water circuit, condense the steam, recirculate the water. It worked perfectly, stable, with a power of 9 kW, also in self sustained mode. We will test publicly this system together with the 1 MW. Lot of work to do, but we are going through: the toy for the mass market is very close.
Warm Regards,
A.R. Before the test of the one megawatt plant, another test will be performed at the University of Uppsala in Sweden. This test will also be a closed system in which the water is evaporated and re-used. The test will also demonstrate the system in self sustain mode. Source
Andrea Rossi
September 16th, 2011 at 3:07 AM
Dear Pietro F:
Yes we have very big financial problems, because I have spent on this all the money I had, and sold all I had, also because the Customer we counted on could not maintain his financial engagements and this has left the ship in the middle of the ocean without oil for the engine. But we are going through, the 1 MW plant will be ready for the end of October for the test anyway, we are close.
Yes, we will organize e new very important test in Uppsala, and this time we will make the calorimetric measurements in a new way, suggested by the Professors: the steam circuit will be a closed circuit with a condenser and will exchange heat with a flow of liquid water: basically, we will have a primary circuit of the E-Cat and a secondary circuit through a radiator, and the energy will be calculated not from the delta T of the input/output of the reactor, but from the delta T of the secondary, which will exchange the heat by means of a heat exchanger. Of course the calculation of the energy produced will be in our disadvantage, because the heat exchange system has not a 100% efficiency, but I can accept it, because our energy gain is very high. The operation will be made also with self sustaining mode. We are already making this test in our factory, and the results of the energy gain are very close to the measurements we made in past. I am very satisfied.
Warm Regards,
A.R. The most important aspects of the upcoming test in Uppsala will be that the system is closed, and the system will be demonstrated in self sustain mode (hopefully for an extended period of time). If the system is allowed to be in self sustain mode for an extended period of time with no input power, then we might see something that would give the skeptics a heart attack -- rising heat after death or "reverse thermal inertia."
E-Cat Skeptic's Doomsday -- Reverse Thermal Inertia
One argument skeptics are making about the most recent test performed is that the system was only allowed to self sustain for 35 minutes before the test was ended. Skeptics are trying to state that due to this short period of time, the energy expended that kept the water boiling was due to "thermal inertia." Simply put, they are trying to say that the heat retained in the metal and other materials in the device was enough to keep the water boiling for 35 minutes. This is absurd for many reasons.
The materials of the E-Cat are made of materials that can store very little heat. It has been stated that for the materials to store enough heat to keep the water boiling for 35 minutes, the device would have had to weigh a ton (2,000 pounds) instead of 80 pounds.
The steam temperature of the E-Cat only dropped about 10 C (from 130 to 120 C) over the course of 35 minutes. This indicates that a very large amount of energy was being produced via a cold fusion reaction. If there was not a cold fusion reaction taking place, the water would have stopped boiling immediately, and the temperature would have dropped much more.
Near the end of the test, the temperature inside of the reactor started to increase. This is despite the fact the input power had not been turned back on.
The third point above is the most important when it comes to the upcoming tests on the E-Cat. If the test had been allowed to continue, the temperature of the inside of the E-Cat would have risen back up even higher AFTER decreasing. This would have demonstrated "reverse thermal inertia." Instead of the stored heat of the system slowing the decrease in temperature, the reverse would be true! If the test had been allowed to continue, the temperature would have increased. Reverse thermal inertia is impossible of course, unless free energy is being harnessed from an unknown source -- cold fusion in this case. According to physics, a device cannot simply heat up after the power is turned off. If the device is heating up, something exotic has to be taking place, like Ni-H fusion!
If a future test shows reverse thermal inertia, it will be the last nail in the coffin of the trolls, cynics, and false skeptics who have been criticizing this technology over the last year. It will also be proof of cold fusion all together, which has been attacked for two decades. Many apologies will be in order!
These upcoming tests should "seal the deal" and kick off the cold fusion revolution, and will make the next month very exciting! Stay up to date by checking back here at PESN for full coverage of this saga.
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[Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam
Alan J Fletcher
Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:36:55 -0700
I’m still trying to figure out what’s going on!
The outlet port is very high on the unit ... if it was just the overflow from a kettle boiler then there wouldn’t be any room for steam.
I might have to go back to thinking of it as a Tube boiler, where the flow of the steam carries the water with it.
But in the early stages of the process the overflow water clearly pulses, just a fraction of a second later than the sound of the pump. That implies it’s directly connected to the incoming water. It’s a kettle again.
I’ve put up a few of my calculator results at http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_sep11_b.php
It’s clearly producing SOMETHING ... but how MUCH?
How does it get the 130C at the instrument port and 50% fluid water at the outlet?
I think there are three ways of reaching 130C.
a) The internal pressure is 3 Bars, and the quality is 0.5. The water and the steam are in equilibrium at 130C.
As the 130C steam leaves the system the pressure drops to 1 Bar and the temperature drops to 100C
(adiabatic expansion — a vertical line on the temperature-enthalpy diagram) — and it might start condensing.
But the 130C water would probably flash into steam, and in the process cool down to 100C.
So do we end up with MORE or LESS water than we had inside the eCat?
b) The internal pressure is 1 Bar (atmospheric, plus a little back-pressure), as a single chamber.
In this case, the only way you can reach 130C is for ALL the water to evaporate, and for the steam to be super-heated.
The 130C 100% Dry superheated steam leaves the eCat. But to get the observed 50% fluid water, this has to cool and condense in about 10cm.
I don’t think you can get rid of enough heat that quickly : it need nucleation sites, which will be available only on the wall of the tube.
c) The eCat is structured as TWO chambers : the first is a kettle boiler at 100C (1 Bar). Any excess fluid overflows directly, at 100C.
The steam component then goes into a second chamber, where it is superheated to 130C at 1 Bar. Because it is a separate chamber
it does not have to be in equilibrium with the water.
Note : this separation of boiler and superheater is very common in traditional boiler design.
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Port
| |
*———————————————* *——*
| Superheated 1 Bar | | |
| Steam 130C ==> | | outlet hose
95% Dry | *————————————
1 Bar 100C | ^ *=====================* Superheated steam =====>
Steam | | | CORE | 130C
|~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ overflow fluid 100C
| | | *-————* ~ *-——
| *=====================* | | ~ |
~~~~~ ====| Water | | ~ |
Inlet | Boil 100C | Water Trap 100C
*———————————————————*
This 130C steam also exits through the hose, and may (but need not) condense.
It does not have time to reach equilibrium with the 100C overflow fluid over the 10cm distance.
The main reason I DON’T like this is that the outlet is so high on the eCat.
Missing measurements:
a) Pressure at the instrument port (to confirm it is 1 Bar)
b) Temperature of the overflow fluid water — should be 100C
c) Temperature of the steam exiting the eCat — if it was superheated at 1 Bar then it should still be at 130C
I can’t figure out the “dumping” of the water at the end, either. Is it 100C water, or is it 130C water? 1 Bar or 3 Bars ?
I’ve never seen 25L of boiling water dumped through a tap, so I don’t know what it should look like.
The general argument is the same as for the hose outlet — 130C water would flash VERY rapidly.
ps — This is a first///// second draft of what I’m thinking. I’ll change my mind again tomorrow!
A guy on his blog says so.
This won’t be allowed in America until government is much smaller.
Quod erat demonstrandum --
Proof is demonstrated by the coffee pot continuing to perc several seconds after the gas is turned off.
Where is this extra energy coming from, since the gas burner is off?
This experiment can be repeated by anyone with a stainless steel coffee pot made in China and pure mountain spring water from selenium-rich granite schist.
A guy on his blog says so.
***If PESWiki is a blog then so is Free Republic.
At any rate, seagull, thanks for bumping the thread.
continuing to perc several seconds
***When it continues to perc for 35 minutes, your experiment would be on a par with this one.
In order to keep the the one-liter coffee pot boiling for one second after gas is off requires 280 Kcalories @100 degrees C.
So then all you need is 35X60 more seconds X 280 Kcalories. Best of luck.
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They’re both the same: cold water in, heat out. Coffee pot burned a bunch of Natural Gas. Rossi’s magic plate, if it’s burning some chemical, is far more efficient.
But, thanks anyways for squawking onto the thread.
What type of sensor was used to measure the temperature, and how was it calibrated? Where was the sensor located in relation to the heating element?
PESWiki is specialized in reporting fiction as news just like the Weekly World News except at a pathetic blog level.
Maybe it's a lot of little heating coils, like the ones in the top of my glasstop stove?
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