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To: Yosemitest

I appreciate your more than thirty years of air traffic control experience. As for my credentials, pleased look at my screen name. It stands for Certificated Flight Instructor, Instrument Instructor, Multiengine Instructor and the 737 is the first of the many type ratings I hold in a variety of jet aircraft. Not included is my masters degree in aeronautical science, my fifteen years as a professor of aeronautical science and over eleven thousand hours of pilot in command and over five thousand hours of instruction given.

You say that this has happened before. Could you please cite an NTSB finding to support your claim?


118 posted on 09/18/2011 6:19:13 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737
Read this (Tommy Rose Pre-Crash Photo: Source?) and if you want the photo of the pre-crash evidence of that 2002 wake turbulence crash, you can request it yourself.

From another source about Tommy Rose's crash.

Have you seen this photo?




119 posted on 09/18/2011 10:09:41 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737
Since you're a CFI, you know that a Mustang P-51 is a CAT III aircraft for wake turbulence. Source is almost at the bottom, after ROCKWELL INTERNATIONAL CORP. (USA)
I don't know what type aircraft were ahead of him, but I assume the similar type aircraft with similar type speeds.
You also know the definition of: You know that a touch and go/low approach (what is closest to the air racing low to the ground) over the same runway requires, When either is a Category III aircraft- 6,000 feet and that's at a normal landing speed.
These racing aircraft were NOT a landing speed.
You're familiar with the AIM, chapter 7, but just in case you want to review it, click here.
But let's review anyway.
Something else that you probably are aware of is wind's effects on wake turbulence.
But just remember
120 posted on 09/18/2011 11:25:47 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737
Take a look at this photo, and consider the size of the wake.
Also realize that the wake is behind the aircraft and much larger than the aircraft.
Also realize that the aircraft is probably in level flight at just above landing speed.



Here's another photo to consider.



Realize that the larger vortices at the wingtips are NOT visible in this second photo.

What's my point? My point is to consider:
121 posted on 09/19/2011 10:40:47 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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