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To: ponygirl
I have a question... since I don't have children, I don't know the answer to this... Don't they require that your children have a whole assortment of vaccinations anyway? Not that I agree with that, but how is this vaccine any different from the whole cocktail of vaccines your four-year-old is required to have before starting public school?

I think that if you're going to have your kids in public schools, then the standard set of shots (MMR, tetanus, polio, etc.) are required, because of the communicability of those diseases. I had to get them when I was in school. Not that I think children should be forced to, but at least its understandable, because of how one kid could spread measles, etc. to all the others, before they even knew they had it.

The HPV is not communicable other than by having sex, and as such, doesn't seem to present as much of an acute health risk, which makes it even less justifiable for forcible vaccination in my mind.

13 posted on 09/16/2011 7:59:57 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I think that if you're going to have your kids in public schools, then the standard set of shots (MMR, tetanus, polio, etc.) are required, because of the communicability of those diseases.

Thank you, that makes perfect sense.

I have a friend-of-a-friend whose daughter is severely disabled with autism and he blames the immunizations, I guess because she was fine up until the point of being vaccinated. Not sure how I feel about that, as I've heard different arguments there. I also have a family member whose little boy was diagnosed with "autism spectrum disorder" at 18 months and she immediately put him on a whole protocol of vitamins and supplements and he is now testing completely normal. So if I did have kids, this kind of vaccine stuff would really freak me out. I can understand the measles, polio, etc... but the other stuff I think I would reconsider. I wouldn't like them telling me it was mandatory.

45 posted on 09/16/2011 8:12:31 AM PDT by ponygirl (People are calling our President the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers; thatÂ’s not allowed is it?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

These days, many states also require a Hepatitis shot, which is not hugely communicable either. “Public health”, you know?


150 posted on 09/16/2011 9:06:15 AM PDT by magritte
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The HPV is not communicable other than by having sex, and as such, doesn't seem to present as much of an acute health risk, which makes it even less justifiable for forcible vaccination in my mind.

Forcible Optional vaccination.

There, fixed that for you.

190 posted on 09/16/2011 9:32:55 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; ponygirl
The HPV is not communicable other than by having sex, and as such, doesn't seem to present as much of an acute health risk, which makes it even less justifiable for forcible vaccination in my mind.

"HPV is not communicable other than by having sex..."?

Unfortunately, that is not the case:

The most common way of HPV transmission is by skin contact. Touching an infected skin or someone and subsequently touching one’s genitals without washing ones hands is the most common way of transmission of these viruses. Sexual contact can also spread the HPV transmission. It is however not the only way as assumed by some people. ..... It is quite possible for the virus to be transmitted by shaking of hands though. This is essentially so because of the skin transmission. This presents quite a challenge in combating its spread now that it is difficult to avoid handshakes.

The ease of transmission makes the virus very widespread throughout the population. ... research from the US and Europe which has shown that 10% to 40% of sexually active women are infected by HPV at any one time. The sexual revolution has made it much more widespread than in was in more sexually conservative eras.

Now, think about how HPV can enter into a family unit. Even if your daughter stays a virgin until the wedding night, chances are that the groom will not be a virgin and chances are that he had his first sexual contact with one of the wilder girls in high school.

So, the HPV is passed from the wilder high school girl to the high school boy that will later become the future groom of your daughter and the father of your grandchildren.

And who will be helping to change your grandkid's diapers?

Your HPV infected son-in-law.

HPV protection of the family is not just about the sexual conduct of your own daughter during her teenaged years. It also deals with that other girl that your daughter thought was a tramp in high school.

If the little tramp got a course of Gardasil before she lost her virginity at age 14, that can ultimately affect the health of the future family of your own daughter.

269 posted on 09/16/2011 10:53:20 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The HPV is not communicable other than by having sex, and as such, doesn't seem to present as much of an acute health risk, which makes it even less justifiable for forcible vaccination in my mind.

CDC: "Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. Another 6 million people become newly infected each year. HPV is so common that at least 50% of sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives."

I can easily imagine a scenario in which one of your children could pick this up from a spouse who didn't want to admit stuff.

311 posted on 09/16/2011 9:34:37 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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