Posted on 09/16/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Michele Bachmann is on the defensive about comments she made earlier this week suggesting that a vaccine against a virus linked to cervical cancer poses a danger to young girls.
"During the debate, I didn't make any statements that would indicate that I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist or that I'm making any conclusions about the drug one way or another," the GOP presidential hopeful told reporters here who questioned her about the story she told suggesting that the vaccine had caused mental retardation. Asked whether she would apologize for comments that outraged medical experts say will discourage parents from getting their children immunized, Bachmann said: "Oh, I'm not going to answer that."
During the Republican debate Bachmann attacked her rival Rick Perry for mandating vaccinations against the human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV) for Texas school girls - a decision that the Texas legislature later overruled.
"To have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat out wrong," she said during the debate.
After the debate, Bachmann took her critique a step further, describing in several television interviews how a tearful mother had approached her after the debate saying that her daughter "suffered mental retardation" as a result of the vaccine.
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Well sport you’re all class. You bring a whole new level of class to the conservative movement.
Or his taxpayer support of failed “green” companies like HelioVolt.
She's moved to bizarro world at this point and I'd be very surprised if she holds her seat in the House. Mitt might want to rethink using her as his pit bull. There's no way in hell anyone is going to pick her as VP.
This vaccine is different in a number of ways. First, the other vaccines are for diseases/illnesses that are communicable in the air or by touch. Everyone is vulnerable to getting those illnesses.
HPV is a sexually transmitted disease.
With all vaccines you have to weigh the benefits of the vaccine against the risks.
For example, my girls got the DPT shot because they almost died of a respiratory illness (RSV) when they were babies. The doctors said they would probably die if they caught whooping cough, and there has been lots of whooping cough in California. So there is a huge benefit of taking the DPT shot, and we determined it was well worth the risk of the side-effects.
For gardisil, my girls (who are now 14) are not sexually active. There is no benefit to them getting the shot at this time. There will be a benefit later on when they are sexually active, but not now. The risks for this vaccine for outweigh the benefits of this vaccine at this time.
Other than that, of course if was sarcasm. Didn't think I would need to explain that.
“Your view is libertarianism run amok. Parents have no right to send their un-vaccinated children to places where they can infect other children. Nor does a solder have a right to infect his platoon-mates by refusing a vaccination. Lets not cheapen personal liberty by trying to stretch it to a ridiculous extent.”
Where is that an orgy? HPV isn’t the measles and children aren’t soldiers.
lets not turn America into a military controlled totalitarian state.
“Michele Bachmann is on the defensive about lies she told earlier this week suggesting that a vaccine against a virus linked to cervical cancer poses a danger to young girls.”
Vaccines are not required because public screwls are not required.
“Interesting that so many conservatives here are critical of the most conservative candidate in the race.”
If you watch their posting history you’ll see a clear agenda.
Who cares what the Perry supporters have to say on it. They are supporters. They are not going to slam this guy. That is silly and has nothing to do with the fact that you said you were excited that Bachmann was making ignorant baseless claims and sticking to them. Are you one that thinks this vaccine causes Mental Retardation in children?
You’re really funny, drift. Pot calling the kettle black there, or are you conveniently forgetting your past “remarks” to me? Nice try.
The short answer is "no, that's not true," but a better answer is "it depends."
It depends on what you mean by "effectiveness."
The individual vaccinated obtains the benefit (immunity). They can be exposed, and they do not become infected. Their immunity does not depend on others being immunized.
But, looked at from the view of the entire public, and the workload on the health care system, it may be that high adoption by the herd is the desired/necessary effect.
-- The only reason people complain about the HPV vaccine is that people consider this a state licence to fornicate. --
One need only read a few threads, and find out this is false, a straw man argument, if you will. There are various reasons to object, even as simple as general principle of not liking being told what to do (and at the same time, willing to do it voluntarily).
-- The State is trying to headoff a wave of healthcare cost of treating cases of cancer in populations who cannot afford cancer treatment. --
Ahh, state-control of the medical industry. Now I see where you are coming from.
The state of Texas could subsidize the cost of the vaccine, give it away for free. This would make sense if it saves the state money in the long run.
Yes youre embarrassing. What do you expect her to do, when someone asks her a question perhaps she should just say DRey thinks I shouldnt say anything.
She should say “I don’t know. Let me ask a real doctor and I will give you an informed response.”
So parents grasp at straws and try anything, no matter how whacked and quacked.
One can sympathize with them while still rejecting their views as public health policy.
Yea, but Jenny McCarthy has some really big boobs.
Class, a whole new level.
Yeah, that $6,000 made all the difference in a campaign costing $30 million. How would he have ever survived and been reelected without it?
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