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To: MN_Mike

Some folks are applauding Perry for trying to maneuver Gardasil into the list of vaccinations covered by health insurance. But of course health insurance never creates money for patients; it simply “spreads the wealth” (and the burden). People’s premiums would rise if Gardasil were to become mandated coverage.

The free market is the best answer, especially since most of the danger of getting HPV is tied to life style choices. Let women decide whether to invest in Gardasil or not. And even Gardasil doesn’t prevent infection by all potentially deadly HPV strains.


2 posted on 09/15/2011 8:33:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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Hello HiTech RedNeck:

You are absolutely right. The “Forgotten Man” is the one who isn’t directly involved but ends up paying anyway.


3 posted on 09/15/2011 8:38:13 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Gardasil is covered by our insurance. Our Pediatrician gave us lots of info. And said decide if you'd like your girls to get this or not, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

I don't expect my girls to be promiscuous, but would their husband even know if he were transmitting HPV to them if he didn't know he had it? And doesn't it protect against genital warts (yuck)?

I'd hate to find out my child, later adult got cancer or the other from my lack of getting her a vaccination.

I can't decide if it's worth it to get the vaccine or not. What if it were 40 years ago and my child got Polio because I didn't trust the new vaccine?

Also, I'm sick of hearing some people act like only — I'll say it— “sluts” need the vaccine because I would never call any young girl a slut and one action as a teen should not decide if you contract a certain cancer.

10 posted on 09/15/2011 9:09:28 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Some folks are applauding Perry for trying to maneuver Gardasil into the list of vaccinations covered by health insurance. But of course health insurance never creates money for patients; it simply “spreads the wealth” (and the burden). People’s premiums would rise if Gardasil were to become mandated coverage.

You are absolutely correct.

When a health care service is expanded in the general population, it costs more money through either higher insurance premiums (for insured care) or higher government spending (for Medicare and Medicaid care).

Perry decided to trade increased dollar costs for more lives saved because he thought it was the right thing to do.

If you believe in the opposite priority, that is where the "bean-counters" come in. It is their job to decide that X number of extra deaths is worth Y number of saved dollars. It is the bean-counter's job to ration care in order to save dollars.

It seems that, if the bean-counter is conservative, that is considered "Fiscal Conservatism", which is good.

However, if the bean-counters are liberal, that is considered a "Death Pannel", which is bad.

No matter what color lip-stick you put on it, "Death Panel Pink" or "Fiscal Conservative Red", the bean-counter position still trades lives for dollars.

The free market is the best answer, especially since most of the danger of getting HPV is tied to life style choices

Is that you, Andy Hardy?

Unless your life style choice is "virgin" and, unless both you and your spouse were virgins when you first slept together and have remained 100% faithful, you are in for quite a shock.

It is estimated that 75% of Canadians will have at least one HPV infection in their lifetime. The Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada estimates that 10% to 30% of the Canadian adult population is infected with HPV. This is in line with research from the US and Europe which has shown that 10% to 40% of sexually active women are infected by HPV at any one time

Bottom line:

Unless you were a virgin on your wedding night or had never slept with anybody except your bride (who had to be a virgin too), chances are that you had been exposed to HPV before you said "I do".

Unless you were pure as the driven snow, guess where your virgin bride got her 10% to 40% chance of being infected with HPV?

She got it from you.

17 posted on 09/15/2011 9:55:22 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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