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To: artichokegrower

I’ve done similar math for the VOLT...and the Tesla will pay for itself in 400k miles, assuming no battery changes...at the 45k price. Word is it will really be 50k. So, if you drive a car 20k miles a year, in two decades, you’ll be cash ahead....excluding the higher cost to insure and tag a 50k vehicle. Only government would throw half a billion at this turkey - plus a subsidy on every sale.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 8:41:12 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew
Only government would throw half a billion at this turkey - plus a subsidy on every sale.

Here's an idea. Allow taxpayers the choice, buy Obamacare or a Tesla. The more likely scenario is what Obama told of his plans for the coal industry; he will enlist the EPA and TSA to make regulations which will even the playing field. You will still be able to buy an internal combustion engine “...but the cost will necessarily skyrocket.”

Obama’s clear strategy to increase the cost of electrical energy production will simply make automobiles too expensive for the proletariat, which, according to most in the city planning business, should be forced to depend upon public transport.

What hasn't been mentioned yet is that anything funded by the government in California will use only union labor. What no engineers in our universities will be asked to do, particularly in California, is to calculate the environmental and energy costs of the whole fuel cycle for electric cars. Electric cars are generally not as efficient as our better internal combustion engines, particularly when most states, and California is typical, derive their electrical energy from burning coal. That California has other states burn the coal makes little difference - except the California environmentalists. California is more likely to require that the subsidized Tesla run on energy produced by subsidized wind turbines or subsidized solar panels, perhaps from Solyndra.

These are old crackpot ideas preserved and taught by Marxists like John Holdren, which serve the objective of destroying free enterprise.

34 posted on 09/14/2011 11:10:42 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: lacrew
Only government would throw half a billion at this turkey - plus a subsidy on every sale.

Here's an idea. Allow taxpayers the choice, buy Obamacare or a Tesla. The more likely scenario is what Obama told of his plans for the coal industry; he will enlist the EPA and TSA to make regulations which will even the playing field. You will still be able to buy an internal combustion engine “...but the cost will necessarily skyrocket.”

Obama’s clear strategy to increase the cost of electrical energy production will simply make automobiles too expensive for the proletariat, which, according to most in the city planning business, should be forced to depend upon public transport.

What hasn't been mentioned yet is that anything funded by the government in California will use only union labor. What no engineers in our universities will be asked to do, particularly in California, is to calculate the environmental and energy costs of the whole fuel cycle for electric cars. Electric cars are generally not as efficient as our better internal combustion engines, particularly when most states, and California is typical, derive their electrical energy from burning coal. That California has other states burn the coal makes little difference - except the California environmentalists. California is more likely to require that the subsidized Tesla run on energy produced by subsidized wind turbines or subsidized solar panels, perhaps from Solyndra.

These are old crackpot ideas preserved and taught by Marxists like John Holdren, which serve the objective of destroying free enterprise.

35 posted on 09/14/2011 11:10:46 PM PDT by Spaulding
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