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To: mk2000

The KEY MORAL QUESTION here is:

“It’s fine for people to believe THEY are their brother’s keeper and there’s plenty of people who DO take care of each other charitably in the USA, BUT DOES THE GOV’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BE THEIR BROTHER’S KEEPER???”

I say no because that’s against the 13th Amendment (It’s INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE!):

AMENDMENT XIII

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 12:12:27 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
“It’s fine for people to believe THEY are their brother’s keeper and there’s plenty of people who DO take care of each other charitably in the USA, BUT DOES THE GOV’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BE THEIR BROTHER’S KEEPER???”

My question is, where are all those Dems who PREACH "separation of church and state?" I mean, you cannot say we cannot pray in the public because of "separation of church and state" and then espouse that the GOVERNMENT enforce Christian teachings like charity and our "brother's keeper!"
32 posted on 09/14/2011 1:12:14 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
BUT DOES THE GOV’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BE THEIR BROTHER’S KEEPER???”

From the first legal treatise written after Constitutional Ratification:

In the United States of America the people have retained the sovereignty in their own hands: they have in each state distributed the government, or administrative authority of the state, into two distinct branches, internal, and external; the former of these, they have confided, with some few exceptions, to the state government; the latter to the federal government.

Since the union of the sovereignty with the government, constitutes a state of absolute power, or tyranny, over the people, every attempt to effect such an union is treason against the sovereignty, in the actors; and every extension of the administrative authority beyond its just constitutional limits, is absolutely an act of usurpation in the government, of that sovereignty, which the people have reserved to themselves.
Preliminary Remarks, St. George Tucker, View of the Constitution

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The Constitution was written for the federal government, NOT the States or the People.

Having the federal government help itself to the wages of our labor, ramrod over all the States and micro-manage every minute detail of everyone's life IS Constitutional treason.

35 posted on 09/14/2011 1:41:19 PM PDT by MamaTexan (If it works in theory but not in practice, then it's not a theory...... but a failure)
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