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To: wagglebee

OK - I’m just going to say it.....there is a complete difference between proactively “killing” someone and simply allowing their body to die.

Before feeding tubes existed, many people, including my grandfather, passed away because they could not take in enough nutrition to maintain life. If this woman had been given a feeding tube and an IV, her body might have been kept alive for a few more days but she was not going to suddenly recover. Dying is a natural process and it will happen to every single one of us. Denying that reality and keeping alive a loved one’s body because you are not ready to let them go is just as wrong as “assisted suicide”.

Both put human beings into the role of being God. I am completely pro-life but if anyone stuck a feeding tube into me when God was trying to take me home, I’d be livid and my family is well aware of my wishes!

I am sorry for your loss - it is never easy to lose a parent.


21 posted on 09/13/2011 5:01:48 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: VikingMom; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
OK - I’m just going to say it.....there is a complete difference between proactively “killing” someone and simply allowing their body to die.

You're right, giving a person increasing amounts of morphine while depriving hydration and nutrition IS proactively killing them.

Before feeding tubes existed, many people, including my grandfather, passed away because they could not take in enough nutrition to maintain life.

Feeding tubes have been in use for over five centuries, the only real advancement is non-allergenic plastics.

Both put human beings into the role of being God. I am completely pro-life but if anyone stuck a feeding tube into me when God was trying to take me home, I’d be livid and my family is well aware of my wishes!

So, using medical advances that God allowed us to develop is "being God."?

If your child had a ruptured appendix would you take them to the hospital to have it removed or is that "being God"?

Have you ever taken antibiotics or is that "being God"?

What about blood pressure medication, vitamins, checking blood pressure and cholesterol levels, do you do any of this or is that also "being God"?

I am sorry for your loss - it is never easy to lose a parent.

I'm not the author of this.

26 posted on 09/13/2011 5:08:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: VikingMom

The old lady was thirsty. She wanted to drink. She was conscious. She wasn’t dying. She only died because they starved and thirsted her to death.

I took care of my mother for months while she was under hospice care and finally when her body was ready to die, she didn’t want to eat or drink, it was gradual, but it happened naturally.

This was not a natural death. It was murder. The woman wanted nutrition.

That is the difference, and it is a huge, huge difference.

My heart is breaking from reading this. I can hardly see to type. Murder by starvation and thirst is totally different from the natural death when the mortal body can no longer process nutrition and the person doesn’t want it any more.

Anyone who has seen a natural death knows the difference, as I have, and I am sure anyone like this poor helpless daughter, who has seen murder by starvation, knows the difference.

How much longer will this culture of death continue!


28 posted on 09/13/2011 5:14:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: VikingMom

I completely agree with you. There comes a time when we need to know “when to say when”. I truly believe that God can work a miracle with or without a feeding tube.
My mom died and prior to her death made it implicitly clear that she did not want a fee ding tube. We used a syringe to give her liquids and fed her applesauce until she rejected everything.She did not suffer and we honored her wishes.


43 posted on 09/13/2011 7:00:54 PM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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