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1 posted on 09/13/2011 12:06:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s like standing next to a car with a hearing roaring powerful engine, then looking under the hood and seeing a tape recorder hooked to some big speakers.


2 posted on 09/13/2011 12:11:40 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: SeekAndFind

>> The survey also shows that 59 percent of tea party supporters disagree with Mr. Perry’s characterization.

I have trouble believing that.


3 posted on 09/13/2011 12:12:40 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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Perry is right, SocSec is a ponzi scheme.

Problem is, many Americans have an entitlement mentality.

Perry needs to do a better job in explaining the dire need for immediate SocSec reform policy.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 12:13:22 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: SeekAndFind

SS was working for many years when American workers supported those retired. It was a system that provided job opportunities when people retired and relieved those working for providing home and health care for their parents.

SS started to fall apart when the American jobs were exported and neither the foreign workers nor their employers paid into the SS system.

Bring the jobs back, put American workers paying into the SS system again and it will be on its way to recovery.


5 posted on 09/13/2011 12:13:48 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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The survey also shows that 59 percent of tea party supporters disagree with Mr. Perry’s characterization.

Dunno about this particular survey, but Perry talking about Social Security this way could destroy his campaign. The public is not ready to hear things like this, calling SS a ponzi scheme and monsterous lie simply scares old people and they will not vote for someone saying such things. Talking dramatically about SS and Medicare or hinting at even changing them very much will send even Tea Party seasoned citizens into a tizzy.

6 posted on 09/13/2011 12:14:35 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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Not surprising. If you’re over 40, it’s too late to start over with a new system. Of course people are going to say that, they’re scared of poverty. I’m one of them.


9 posted on 09/13/2011 12:18:10 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Every half well informed individual knows that SS needs some reforms. And every individual with half a quotient of common sense knows it’s a dumb ass move to discuss SS as a “Ponzi scheme” and a “monstrous lie”.

If Perry should be the nominee the Dims will run ads with those terms until election day. It’s dumb to give the Dims such easy fodder to use during the general election campaign, and it would cost some votes and might even cost a state or two. Not smart to keep this up.


18 posted on 09/13/2011 12:28:26 PM PDT by Will88
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It’s really simple. We threw away our future in the abortion mills. Did you all not think that we won’t reap what we’ve sewn? Is God a liar?


19 posted on 09/13/2011 12:28:42 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (http://www.durban3nyc.com/. Go there and learn what those who seek to destroy Israel are up to)
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Rick Perry is correct. Social Security is a ponzi scheme and a lie. Social Security was NEVER intended to become a way of life after retirement. In fact, Roosevelt wanted to transition Social Security into a privatized system once the country rebounded from the depression. The amount of money the government takes from citizens for this ponzi scheme is what has kept this lie going for all these years.
20 posted on 09/13/2011 12:29:21 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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Perry really needs to put together a sit-down explanation video of what Social Security is, and is not. The spending of the Social Security funds BEFORE they even are arriving is what causes it to fit “Ponzi Scheme”, and there’s NO WAY this can lead to anything buy the payers having NO FUNDS when they reach Claim age.


25 posted on 09/13/2011 12:33:17 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: SeekAndFind; DrDan4Congress; pallis; NationalSpotlight

“( - - - just 27 percent say it is “truthful.” - - - )”

Let’s see now, FDR foisted the Socialist Security System on us in the 1930’s, SSS went bankrupt in 2010, and still only 27 % DARE to think that FDR did something unconstitutional? What a joke!

My, oh my. We are indeed a gullible bunch to tax-burdened ninnies!

The SSS is an annuity that each of us is forced, at the point of a gun, to buy. Where is the competition in that?

From the SSS to obamatrauma”care” all of these gunpoint legislations violate the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law: decreases competition; illegally fixes non-competitive prices, unfairly deals across State lines, etc.

Oh BTW, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and obamatrauma”care” are all un-Constitutional also because they do not give the recipients their Constitutional right to a free and fair choice.

What is also stunning is that the Tabloid-MSM did not know the FDR did some un-Constitutional.

Oops, sorry! I forgot. Those facts are never taught in Journalism School. My bad.


32 posted on 09/13/2011 12:39:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obamatrauma"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.)
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72 percent of registered voters say Perry's description of the program is "inaccurate,"

Okay, if it's so dang-fire popular and wonderful, let's give people the option of participating or not. You can either keep the status quo, or your and your employer's 'contributions' go straight to you. All you have to do is agree that you are no longer eligible to participate in Social Security benefits. Then, let's see how many people agree with Perry, in principal, if not in semantics.

40 posted on 09/13/2011 1:07:41 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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Not surprising. Look at who wins elections in this country.


58 posted on 09/13/2011 3:58:33 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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A phishing poll.


59 posted on 09/13/2011 6:29:52 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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