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The right and wrong way to talk about Gardasil
Michelle Malkin ^ | 9/13/2011 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 09/13/2011 10:11:03 AM PDT by Lakeshark

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To: RowdyFFC; CodeToad; Lakeshark; Diogenesis

81 posted on 09/13/2011 11:40:35 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: RowdyFFC

“the fact is that Perry agrees with you, but you’re too dumb and blind to understand what he did.”

I don’t know what makes you so stupid, but it really works.


82 posted on 09/13/2011 11:42:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: bt579
As of July 2011, legislators in at least 41 states and D.C. have introduced legislation to require, fund or educate the public

Can you break those numbers down by "require," "fund," and "educate"? There is a huge difference between require and educate.

83 posted on 09/13/2011 11:43:28 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: upsdriver

Hey upsdriver! How are you? Long time no se!


84 posted on 09/13/2011 11:43:53 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs (BUSHS)!)
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To: CodeToad

Turn that mirror around...blam...got yourself right in the face...


85 posted on 09/13/2011 11:46:49 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Paperdoll

Hi Doll!:) I’m doing great! Retired and loving life. It appears, in our infinite wisdom, that we are again backing the same candidate!


86 posted on 09/13/2011 11:58:19 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: RowdyFFC

“Actually, NO, not apples and oranges, diseases”

The CDC would hardly agree with you. I’ve been a nurse since 1969. Yes apples and oranges. An incidental contact like being in the same room with someone who has measeles or mumps as opposed to an intentional sexual contact.


87 posted on 09/13/2011 12:04:38 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Lakeshark

I can’t sign a paper if I want to drive without a license. I must obtain a license to drive. I cannot opt out. If you can opt out it is not really a mandate. It is not even required.


88 posted on 09/13/2011 12:13:46 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: pallis

It was a great ‘gotcha’ moment on Bachmann’s part and I think she speaks for many on this issue.

Perry’s response was weak and revealing.


89 posted on 09/13/2011 12:15:04 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Jihad THIS!! America Forever!!! Let's Roll!!)
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To: Lakeshark

Sorry, but IF there’s an opt-out, and there was, then it was not a “mandate”. It was a standard. There is a difference.

There are also a few things important to know:

Additional risk factors primarily identified for females include partner sexual behavior (26) and immune status (37,38). Genital HPV infection also can be transmitted by nonsexual routes, but this is uncommon. Nonsexual routes of genital HPV transmission include transmission from a mother to a newborn baby (39,40).


90 posted on 09/13/2011 12:26:43 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: beebuster2000

ANY government, federal, state and local that forces a parent to give medication to their children that they don’t want to is overreach unless its a medication that is for a contagious disease that puts the population of children at risk....this vaccine was for a sexual transmitted disease....not too many 12 year olds fall into that category. There are risks of reactions to any vaccine, but for most the risk outweighs the results...IE: such as polio vaccine...Not this silly vaccine for children that the results of are not known....Death is not the only reaction to vaccines....some are worse, paralysis, mental retardation and even coma......As a student nurse I took care of a young boy with retardation due to adverse reaction to the necessary inoculation for starting school...But the individual risk was outweighed by the prevention of a far greater risk to everyone..


91 posted on 09/13/2011 12:34:35 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: RowdyFFC
Keep posting the truth Rowdy FFC, but don't expect the Perry bashers to change their minds.

When someone WANTS to believe the worst about someone elses motives, they don't let facts get in the way.

92 posted on 09/13/2011 12:35:08 PM PDT by Texan
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To: Lakeshark
It’s about his instincts, judgment, non-apology apology, and ethics.

EXACTLY!!!

93 posted on 09/13/2011 12:35:20 PM PDT by GBA
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To: upsdriver

:o) Yep. You know what they say about great minds. Happy retirement to you.


94 posted on 09/13/2011 12:37:28 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs (BUSHS)!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

If you want your child to have the vaccine, so be it, but don’t tell me I have to give a 12 year old a vaccine I don’t want to give her....The vaccine if only for supposed protection of one person...the others cannot catch it...therefor its an individuals decision. And puts others children at risk of the results of the vaccine that can be worse than death...Parents should have to OPT IN. Not opt out....


95 posted on 09/13/2011 12:42:45 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: jwalsh07

Vetting is good. Just base it on facts and keep the big picture in mind.


96 posted on 09/13/2011 12:47:56 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: jwalsh07

Vetting is good. Just base it on facts and keep the big picture in mind.


97 posted on 09/13/2011 12:48:09 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: goat granny
The particular virus is a transmitted disease. If there is a safety issue with the vaccine that should be clearly brought out by the manufacture, and the government. Then people have a "right" to complain. The real issue is the disease is a result of sexual immorality and the vaccination can appear as license to "screw around."

We have been vaccinating children for generations. I had vaccination for small pox etc. My generation all survived the vaccinations received in school.

The idea that we object to something because the State is mandating it is ridiculous! The very definition of law; "a command that a person shall or shall not do a certain act" indicates people are compelled all the time: "Thou shalt not run a stop sign!" We grant people authority to compel and I see nothing in compelling children and their parents to be immunized as violating any "right" or amounting to oppression.

Bachman's comments indicate to me that she is an imbecile playing on the ignorance and fears of an already hysterical population.

98 posted on 09/13/2011 12:59:28 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: xzins; perfect_rovian_storm; All
Michelle Malkin did not make up the word, it was a mandate, everyone in Texas called it a mandate at the time, the executive order called it a requirement or mandatory. Here's an article about the “mandate” from 2007. If you do a google search (any search engine for that matter), you will find hundreds of articles that describe it as a “mandate”, you actually won't find an article that does not call it a “mandate” until the PerryKrishnas changed the history of what happened: http://www.southernstudies.org/2007/05/texas-governor-defeated-on.html
99 posted on 09/13/2011 1:12:53 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: RowdyFFC

You’re right and I agree.

We should stay on message about going after OBAMA. Perry said the EO was a mistake. I hope he learned not to overreach. (He’s been Governor more than 11 1/2 years. If that’s the only mistake he made.....)

Can we move on, people? The lamestram media will think we’re all a bunch of crazy yahoos again. (”The TEA Party is against vaccinating your childrens.”)

Perry has a wonderful record as a right to life Governor and introduced the mandatory sonagram bill (before an abortion) in Texas. The courts are attempting to overturn it.


100 posted on 09/13/2011 1:31:55 PM PDT by active citizen
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