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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Who is talking about amnesty? Well, except for all the candidates... including the non-candidate, Palin.

So, it’s not much of an issue if there is no choice to be found in all the candidates.

That said, I think we’re approaching the illegal immigration issue wrong with the fence. We need to get rid of all government support and aid to illegals. No welfare, no medicare, no free hospital visits, no bilingual education, etc, etc, etc.

With that, the ones that stay are the one’s that are going to work their butt off to EARN their way. They’ll have to learn English and join the melting pot that is America in order to survive, just like the millions of Eastern European immigrants that flooded our country during the 1880-1920s.

And that’s the kind of immigrant we want to keep. Not the leeches, not the criminals, not those incapable of becoming American.


130 posted on 09/13/2011 7:33:35 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
Who is talking about amnesty? Well, except for all the candidates... including the non-candidate, Palin.

I can't find any proof that Palin is for a "path to citizenship." Let me know if you find any. However, recently she advocated some kind of registration and guest worker program for illegal aliens. I can't prove it, but I suspect that it will be more difficult than she thinks to have a guest worker program without it somehow adding a "path to citizenship."

So, it’s not much of an issue if there is no choice to be found in all the candidates.

I think Cain has been consistent in opposing any kind of amnesty, but I don't think he could win the primary. Not sure about Santorum and Machmann, but again, Perry and Romney may be the only ones with the muscle to beat Obama.

That said, I think we’re approaching the illegal immigration issue wrong with the fence. We need to get rid of all government support and aid to illegals. No welfare, no medicare, no free hospital visits, no bilingual education, etc, etc, etc.

A fence can be useful, but to me it's not the Sine Qua Non of getting immigration under control. I agree with your other ideas you mentioned above.

And that’s the kind of immigrant we want to keep. Not the leeches, not the criminals, not those incapable of becoming American.

We disagree here. How familiar are you with Mexico? Think about the corruption the people tolerate there. I think allowing voting rights for a such a huge population would be a disaster for conservatives, but also eventually for leftists and Hispanics who were amnestied.

143 posted on 09/13/2011 8:04:47 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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