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Republican presidential candidate and Texas Gov. Rick Perry speaks during a rally held by the Orange County Republican party at Roger's Gardens on September 8, 2011 in Newport Beach, California.

1 posted on 09/11/2011 3:00:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Couldn’t agree more. Higher “education” is the biggest scam in the United States these days, with the possible exception of Social Security. He got anything to say about Social Security, btw?


79 posted on 09/11/2011 6:55:30 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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Virtually everything liberals and progressives have had influence over has to be reformed and we would do well to start with education.

The value of the degree is not based upon what you had to do, learn or pay to get it, which partly explains why the quality of that education is often so poor.

Beyond being a 4 year extension of adolescence, the value of a 4-year degree is at best loosely coupled to the actual education it once represented. Instead, its worth is as an entry ticket to corporate carpet country level jobs.

The price of admission to the corporate world is a 4-year degree. Without that piece of paper, assuming that you are hired, you won't ever be more than an hourly employee in the corporate world regardless of how good you are.

That's why a degree costs so much.

80 posted on 09/11/2011 6:55:55 AM PDT by GBA
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Here’s an idea, Ricky boy. How about us Texas taxpayers NOT have to pay for your illegals who are paying in-state tuition and stealing a desk spot from other Texans and US students who would like to attend college.


86 posted on 09/11/2011 7:05:40 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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good.


96 posted on 09/11/2011 7:35:32 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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I think that was about the price of college, when I graduated about 30 years ago.

Colleges do not need football teams. Colleges do not need grad buildings that win awards for their looks. College spend so much money to be “competitive” in the eyes of their students it is just crazy.

I just sent two kids to college this year—one to a small school with a world wide reputation. They are pretty mundane with their spending. The other is a decent small school with a world wide reputation in one degree. They spend millions promoting their OTHER majors to fill the dorms.

It is so wasteful. Focus on what you do well, and leave the rest out.


100 posted on 09/11/2011 7:44:57 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ok, just to review. Here is a list of things that are NOT rights: A home, Health care, and a job.)
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Web based instruction is great (when done right) - I’ve done it myself...but there is still the challenge of many larger employers only considering “brick and mortar” degrees to have any value (I’ve also had THIS problem).


105 posted on 09/11/2011 8:08:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (Carter Obama and Reagan the nation!)
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The brick-and-mortar university is an anachronism. Trying to pretend it's the only way to get a quality postsecondary education is the primary reason the price has risen beyond affordability.

It's funny -- socialization (the same argument given to homeschoolers re: public schools) is often given as a reason to keep the status quo.

106 posted on 09/11/2011 8:08:56 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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By putting more & more of the basic courses online, & keeping a ‘student’ at home, with no communting or dorm costs, the expense of getting a college education could be brought down sharply.

Basic courses surely don’t need an annual change of textbooks, either. The textbook I have for my Accounting 101-both semesters- is certainly just as viable today as it was in 1976 or so. Used textbooks in such cases would be another way to cut costs. I just don’t understand changing textbooks every year—even in elementary school.

I see local ads for ‘E-school” which advertises that they have 24/7/365 phones lines for questions & that someone is always manning those lines.

Seems far cheaper than huge expenditures on buildings, land, utilities & ‘professors’. It would allow the schools to root out the usless, bored, boring & keep only the best teachers.

Call ir higher education home school style or whatever.

It could be done.


107 posted on 09/11/2011 8:18:12 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Perry signed into law giving in-state tuition to illegal aliens.

We the People, as taxpayers, are paying for illegal aliens to go to college in Texas!

Perry is a pro illegal alien RINO!


111 posted on 09/11/2011 8:28:47 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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$10,000 is at least 10x too much. $1,000! Or less!

Take a test, get a BA. Or BSc. For thesis level degrees, that need a formal review — maybe then $10,000 is acceptable. Maybe.


117 posted on 09/11/2011 8:51:08 AM PDT by bvw
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“They can no longer smugly claim that just having a degree is a fast track to high-paying jobs.”
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Except for certain degrees that are in demand many college degrees are a fast track to the kind of job that used to be done by someone with an eighth grade education because in many cases a “college education” represents no more of a real education than an eighth grader was expected to have fifty or sixty years ago. Rush Limbaugh calls them “instant unemployment degrees”. What we need more than cheap college degrees is a real K-12 education system at least equal to what we had back in the fifties. A young person with a REAL high school education as opposed to simply having a high school diploma might have a future even now.


119 posted on 09/11/2011 9:12:34 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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Every parent should warn their child on their 16th birthday that they will be kicked out of the house when the turn 18.

Then they should do it, no matter what.

Everyone will be better off for it, including the kid.

122 posted on 09/11/2011 10:03:01 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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He maybe on to something...

Just had brunch with a retired Conservative College Professor.

Some of discussion items.

* The "Dr" noted, current circulum at his college is outdated, no guidance either.
* We are taking away children's youth to build a resume for college, hyper-sports, public service etc, etc.
* Mental health pro's are wonder what effect that will have on society.
* The Colleges are more interest in the hyper-achiever kids, and alumni money, to fuel even greater competition teams of all types to build for example that 2 million dollar competition swimming pool.
* We questioned are they turning out someone who can do anything with an English degree, or do those jobs do not exist anymore, or do we need more specialization.

We questioned have 4 yr schools outlived their usefulness, other than the networking, your schools gravitas ( when you go to get a job ), and possible work study arrangements, what are you going their for?

Just like so many of our Quasi-Governmental organizations need to be re-engineered because they are failed models, SSI, Medicare, Medicaid, etc etc., it maybe fair to say the 4 year college model needs to be completely rethought....

127 posted on 09/11/2011 12:15:07 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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I was impressed when I first heard of this. There is no excuse for the high cost of college nowdays. When I entered University of Texas students took 15 hours a semester and finished in 4 years. Nowdays it takes them years more and the cost of loans is horrible.

Book were almost $100. each when my kids entered college and they were changed each year! There’s no excuse for that.
If the books hold ‘facts’, how can that change each year? It’s a money making scam.

Tenured Professors get grants and work on silly projects while ‘instructors’ teach the courses.

My local University of Houston college has 400 new Freshman enrolled this year. Motels have been converted into dorms to hold them. Fewer are ‘going away’ to the big colleges because of the costs.


129 posted on 09/11/2011 1:48:57 PM PDT by potlatch (Two Eyes, Two Ears, One Mouth - Use Them Proportionately)
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Not my man by any means...but this is a good start...if he can make it happen.


137 posted on 09/11/2011 2:32:55 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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