Posted on 09/09/2011 6:05:01 AM PDT by icwhatudo
That'll scare them.
Who says this is even necessarily true? Disinformation works.
China has already proven they can take out our sattelites.
What happens if they decide to do so?
Building their own Aircraft Carrier, spending money on their military, eyes on Taiwan, using our money for their products to build up their offensive capabilities.
Perhaps testing their own equipment in N. Korea.
Their aircraft carrier would last a hot 20 minutes at most in a real war and they know it.
Purchasing obsolete Russian designs is always the best way to kill off your sailors and the Chinese will notice that if/when the time comes.
we don’t have jam-proof GPS??? Nonsense.
Easy fix. Program missiles to track signal source and say
it was their fault for trying to disrupt our missile
tracking system.
Methinks that dependency on advanced avionics, satellites, etc will not end well.
Yes there are multiple backups - worse case scenario they go above the clouds and shoot celestial navigation. Buddy of mine was an airforce bomber pilot - they had to assume those conditions in training all the time.
I’m Navy and the first thing to go in any refresher training course was GPS (then Loran, etc I know I’m dating myself with that). Then all the officers and quartermasters who knew how to shoot bearings and plot. Somehow in reftra we always ended up a burning hulk adrift with not a single NCO or Officer in charge. I used to enjoy walking around in my “zombie” state teaching and helping sailors with this and that thing they’d never worked on before. Good times. Was the best part of being in the service...though I always questioned if the training always ended up that way would they be so ingrained to it that they would ‘zombify’ on cue in a real attack - LOL.
Nice to know that in an actual war, all our planes would be grounded...
The fact that this event was announced by the military means that we’re making a deal out of it. Whether it will be a big deal remains to be seen.
It sounds like it might have been the RC-135. I flew on that bird in the Middle East.
Yes, these planes can fly without GPS (they usually carry 2 navigators, 1 using digital, 1 tracking with map and compass - as backup, just for this type of thing) but you must stay on track. They were jamming this time but what happens if they start giving phony data. The RC-135 or whatever plane it was, might stray into North Korean territory and they could legally shoot it down.
And this type of thing is not a new trick. The Russians used to do the same thing from East Germany. They would lure our planes over the border with false NAV beacons.
GPS relies on signals from satellites. Any device that relies on RF signals can be jammed. All the bad guy needs to know is the frequency band.
There are ways to mitigate rf jamming, but both the sender and receiver have to be on the “same page” so to speak. I don’t believe GPS satellites have that capability.
Mostly everyday except Sunday, and that Sunday part may be wrong this year. Information should be up and running this Sunday.
fyi
Nah. China learned from W that they can force our planes down and we won't hold a grudge. Gotta keep that "FREE" trade going for da boys on da board ya know.
Drudge has it up now.
“..Misleading Headline?.. Do not navigators learn to navigate without GPS?..”
I certainly hope so, eg dead reckoning, celestial, radar, local area noon, etc. But maybe we’re so screwed up like today’s education system where we have to use calculators to do square roots or long division.
Certainly, some form of tactical or strategic retaliation (jam their radar, screw up their satellites, etc.) was in order, but as another poster said, the pubic public doesn’t have a need to know about this.
The report doesn’t parse. ‘Emergency’ landing means what it says - a landing required to avoid substantial hazard to or loss of the aircraft. IMHO, EMP attack is one of the major hazards to the safe operation of any fly-by-wire flight control system. Another major hazard to the safe operation of a fly-by-wire flight control system is that it was designed and built by Airbus Industries, but we hope and assume that was not the case here.
I thought the same thing. GPS went down, plane went home to find out why.
We should still blow the locations of the jammers out of ground though.
I agree...
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