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Rick Perry: "The Promises and Platitudes' Aren't Going To Cut It"
ABC News ^ | 09/08/2011 | Michael Falcone

Posted on 09/09/2011 2:36:31 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

Mr. President, we cannot spend our way to prosperity, it does not work.”

Perry said he has a “record of change” whereas Obama only offers “the rhetoric of change.” Though he spent most of his brief remarks assailing the president, Perry vowed to continue to contrast himself with his GOP rivals too.

Perry, who mixed it up at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Wednesday night with the other Republican presidential hopefuls, particularly Mitt Romney, acknowledged that “we’ve got our differences.”

“We’ll talk about them,” Perry said, adding “hopefully in a very respectful way.”

“I stood on the stage last night with seven other very, very fine and great Americans and every one of them would better than what we have in the White House today,” Perry told the crowd, “any one of them.”

Few in the crowd seemed to be concerned about Perry’s use of the term “Ponzi scheme” to describe Social Security despite the criticism he has been drawing even from other Republicans. (Perry did not use that phrase on Thursday.) In fact, some of his supporters appeared to be embracing “Ponzi scheme” as a rallying cry. Orange County Supervisor Shawn Nelson, a Perry backer, who spoke ahead of the governor, praised Perry’s use of “provocative language.”

And Micki Blair, a teacher from nearby Corona, Calif. who said she was leaning toward Perry in the primary, agreed.

“I don’t think his rhetoric is too strong,” she said. “I think that people are mature, have a brain. They can figure out that if you don’t put enough in, you can’t pass it all out. It just doesn’t work that way.”

Perry will remain in California through the end of the week. He has a full schedule of fundraising events in Southern and Central California and the Bay Area.

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“This president is set to give another speech tonight on jobs, but I’m telling you the promises and the platitudes that we’re going to hear are not going to cut it,” Perry said at an afternoon rally in Orange County.

You’re right there, Ricardo. I agree.

But how about your giving us more than promises and platitudes on your immigation stance? How about some specifics on what’d you’d really do, something more than “boots on the ground”?


121 posted on 09/09/2011 12:18:48 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn
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To: Liz

We have no sanctuary cities in Texas. We do have local police depts. that refuse to check status. Governor Perry personally has fought this practice.


122 posted on 09/09/2011 12:25:11 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: org.whodat

Overall spending was low to begin with and is still comparatively low for the US.

Better charts
http://www.taxfoundation.org/UserFiles/Image/sl_burdens_map-20110223-1.jpg
Texas is in the bottom ten for tax burden.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/276.html
Texas is 42 in spending per capita, 29th per household.(Alaska is 1st in both.)

Then, there’s our very low debt http://www.willisms.com/archives/2011/08/texas_interest.html


123 posted on 09/09/2011 12:32:23 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: Liz; stephenjohnbanker; Condor51; South40; rintense; cripplecreek; sickoflibs; AuntB; ...

I share your concern about Perry on Immigration and the dream act. But charleswaynect is not a rabid partisan robot. Let’s make our points, but name calling is not going to convince anyone. I know that some Palin and Perry supporters are very abrasive, as were some Bush supporters, but I don’t want to look at myself and say, “We have met the enemy, and he is us.”


124 posted on 09/09/2011 12:32:54 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Condor51
Proof dear lady is not a conglomeration of other candidates half truths distortions, and decades old campaign slogans. Nice try though!!! Do you something less than ten years old!!
125 posted on 09/09/2011 12:34:06 PM PDT by ontap
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To: Liz

Free speech does not mean that you won’t be expected to back up your speech - that’s free speech, too.


126 posted on 09/09/2011 12:37:32 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: hocndoc; CharlesWayneCT
Then, there’s our very low debt

I am glad you brought this up, because I have not had any success getting anyone to talk about it. There is no doubt it would come up in the general election if Perry was the GOP nominee. That debt chart you posted was 2009. What about now?

127 posted on 09/09/2011 12:38:40 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz
RE :"Let’s make our points, but name calling is not going to convince anyone.

Yes, that Perry-dactils line is killing me and I am having trouble catching my breath everytime I read it, worse yet I might start using it if not careful.

128 posted on 09/09/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs

Of course US citizens can get in state tuition. And the rules for them are much easier than for the illegal kids that the Feds refuse to allow us to notice, much deport.

They have to live here one year, not 3, and can be graduates of any high school, not just a Texas high school.


129 posted on 09/09/2011 12:42:58 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: Liz

TexMex is my culture, Bigot.


130 posted on 09/09/2011 12:45:20 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: sickoflibs

Hang in there——I plan to post a pic of this “upright bird” ——— the pteradactyl. LOL.


131 posted on 09/09/2011 12:47:15 PM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Operatives.” That’s projection on your part.


132 posted on 09/09/2011 12:49:51 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

We operate on a balanced budget by Constitution. By that same Constitution, our debt must be 95% “self-supporting,” meaning that the loans must pay for themselves as the bond for roads or the student loans are paid off.

However, we have decreased our “non-self-supporting” debt and received a credit upgrade last month.

Projections for debt are down, GDP is up.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/texas_state_spending.html

and

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/state_summary.php?chart=F0&units=p&rank=ct


133 posted on 09/09/2011 12:57:36 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: hocndoc

Just a perception willing to be convinced though. By the way I used to live in Texas in almost another lifetime though. He is not my cup of tea but probably electable that counts for something I guess since Obama is history anyway.


134 posted on 09/09/2011 1:01:28 PM PDT by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: hocndoc; CharlesWayneCT; Toddsterpatriot; Prokopton; nathanbedford

Although $29B sounds like a lot of money, and it is, this chart makes Texas look better, at least compared to other states (Cal the worst, as you would expect, TX and Ohio and Michigan(?) the best):

I learned something today. Comments?

135 posted on 09/09/2011 1:20:20 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: hocndoc; Cincinatus' Wife
Check Federal law, you cannot offer in-state tuition rates to illegals unless you offer it to out-of-state legal Americans too.

(a) In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an alien who is notlawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident.
(b) Effective date This section shall apply to benefits provided on or after July 1, 1998.

Search 8 U.S.C. § 1623 : US Code - Section 1623: Limitation on eligibility for preferential treatment of aliens not lawfully present on basis of residence for higher education benefits

Perry needs to be asked about this soon.

136 posted on 09/09/2011 1:24:13 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

As a percentage of GDP, our debt is very low, at 6%.

(Thanks for posting the graphs. My HTML is rudimentary.)


137 posted on 09/09/2011 1:25:49 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: sickoflibs

And of course, the Texas law makes it much easier for US citizens to access in state tuition.

1 year is easier than 3 years. We don’t care what high school US citizens graduate from.


138 posted on 09/09/2011 1:29:05 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.orgI've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.Patrol the border 2 control)
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To: sickoflibs

You cannot offer in-state tuition for illegals based on residency. “not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State”.

The Texas law does not do that. It offers in-state tuition on the basis of attendance and graduation from a Texas high school. The courts have found that meets the requirements of the law, but the feds can change their law if they’d like.

BTW, this means that if you pay to send your kids to a Texas high school (which you can do while living out-of-state in some circumstances), your children could also get in-state tuition.


139 posted on 09/09/2011 1:32:09 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: sickoflibs; hocndoc; Cincinatus' Wife
an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident.

The lawyers may have found a legal loophole (No, I ain't a lawyer). Residency requirements for the Texas Dream Act contain the phrase, "I have filed or will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity that I am eligible to do so." LINK So how can you prove an illegal alien won't apply for legal status in 10, 20 or 100 years? Maybe a Texas lawyer can clarify this.

After all, "community organizer" type counselors may tell them that amnesty is coming, so they probably believe they will be able to apply in a few years. This is one reason I oppose "Dream Acts." I think of them as amnesty's foot in the door.

140 posted on 09/09/2011 1:56:10 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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