[Cincinatus' Wife]

Wisconsin's Ron Johnson ("liberal" Wisconsin) and Florida's Marco Rubio (God's waiting room Florida) treated the voters as adults and the ADULTS elected them to serve!

U.S. Senator Ron Johnson called Social Security a ponzi scheme and took Russ Feingold's Wisconsin seat. [snip].....>>>In a move to head off criticism from his opponent, Democratic U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold, Johnson put his Ponzi comparison at the center of TV and radio ads that began running Sept. 15, 2010.

"I'm going to tell you what Senator Feingold and his allies' next attack against me will be," Johnson says in the radio ad. "They're going to tell you I said Washington politicians have run Social Security like a Ponzi scheme.

Johnson goes on to say: "I did say that, and it's true. During his 18 years in the Senate, Russ Feingold and politicians from both parties have raided $2 trillion from the Social Security trust fund. They spent your savings. The money is gone. And what did we get? Bigger government, wasteful spending and an IOU."<<<.... [snip]

Johnson beats incumbent Feingold [snip]....>>>U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold had the experience. Oshkosh businessman Ron Johnson had the message. In the end, the message won. [snip] Early on, his inexperience showed in several political missteps. He angered some by waffling on whether to sell his BP stock after the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, got in hot water by using the word "licenses" when referring to gun "permits" and was ridiculed for theorizing that sunspots could be responsible for global warming. But none of that seemed to hurt his momentum.<<<....[end]

U.S. Senator Marco Rubio Says Social Security And Medicare Make Americans Weak And Lazy >>>>>....“These programs actually weakened us as a people. You see, almost forever, it was institutions in society that assumed the role of taking care of one another. If someone was sick in your family, you took care of them. If a neighbor met misfortune, you took care of them. You saved for your retirement and your future because you had to. We took these things upon ourselves in our communities, our families, and our homes, and our churches and our synagogues. But all that changed when the government began to assume those responsibilities. All of a sudden, for an increasing number of people in our nation, it was no longer necessary to worry about saving for security because that was the government’s job.”<<<....

Rubio-Crist Debate .......>>>[Marco] RUBIO: I think all of that has to be on the table, including the way we index increases in cost of living. All of these issues have to be on the table. They have to be options that I would be open to. They are included in the Ryan roadmap. I think it's the right approach to Social Security reform.

[Chris] WALLACE: Governor Crist, we looked all over your campaign Web site. Frankly, we couldn't find a word about Social Security reform.

[Charlie] CRIST: Well, I think it's important that we understand Social Security must be saved. It must be protected. The idea of having a higher age for people to be able to be eligible for Social Security really flies in the face of an awful lot of my fellow Floridians and it's something that I would not advocate.

I think we need to take the fraud out of Social Security, the waste, as with -- it is in Medicare as well. I'd like to get back to something that you were talking about with the speaker, and that is taxes."<<<...

[org.whodat]

I am glade it has been brought up, now we may be able to find out why Americans social security has been spent on illegals. The money went somewhere.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

GOV. RICK PERRY: Social Security is " a monstrous lie” “a ponzi scheme”

Perry Campaign: Remember When Romney Compared Social Security to a Criminal Enterprise? [quote from Romney's book] " What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.” [end quote]

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.

The Obama administration and many economists have warned of economic catastrophe if the United States does not raise the amount it is legally allowed to borrow by August 2.

MITT ROMNEY [09-08-2011 GOP PRIMARY DEBATE] "I will make sure that we keep the program and we make it financially secure. We save Social Security. And under no circumstances would I ever say by any measure it’s a failure. It is working for millions of Americans, and I’ll keep it working for millions of Americans. And we’ve got to do that as a party.”

[sneakers]

It’s about time we stop tip-toeing around the elephant in the living room. We’d better deal with the problem. Good for Perry.

PRIVATIZE!!!!! It’s too late for me - I’m 56 - but I want my son to have the benefits of a privatized system. For the sake of future generations, we have to do something soon.

[DH]

They argue that the overriding issue of the campaign should be jobs — and that everything else should be a distant second.

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Anyone who is so naive to make that statement has no common sense. Everything else should be a distant second??????

How about replacing the word “jobs” with the word “business?”

Our Fascist/Marxist/Communist government has KILLED BUSINESS and now want us to hire more employees!

From the monumental increases in the minimum wage to the ever “mind boggling” increases in regulations pertaining to both freedom in general and restrictions in business, we have completely “gutted” our industrial base and increased the cost of doing business to the point we can’t compete with any other country.

When I heard Obama’s “employ a thug (union member)” idea I just could not believe that any business would employ someone so that they could get a tax credit for a nominal amount and spend a large amount in that new employee’s cost simply to do so.......without the business increase to justify it! How stupid does Obama think us business owners are?

[Texas Eagle]

...it’s tactically stupid to mention the looming bankruptcy of “popular” federal programs such as Social Security and Medicare

Who doesn't know that Socialist Security and BlueHairCare is insolvent?

Perry should double down and explain why SS and MC are nearing bankruptcy.

[Texas Eagle]

By 2035, there will be an estimated 2.1 workers for every retiree,

The real fun will begin when it gets down to one worker paying for one retirees "benefits".

But, sadly, the fun will be gone once the ratio inverts and one worker will be paying for two retirees.

[RayChuang88]

This is one of the big reasons I favor FairTax (H.R. 25/S. 13) and (to a slightly lesser extent) Steve Forbes' no-loophole 17.5% flat-rate income tax proposal--both eliminate the double taxation on savings and investments. This right there SUBSTANTIALLY cuts the need for Social Security and Medicare, since people now entering the workforce and/or people now working up to 40 years old could start to put money away into private savings accounts for retirement and/or future medical bills completely tax-free.

Indeed, Congress should have passed major income tax simplification back in the 1980's when they had the chance--imagine what the US economy would be like if we had something like the Forbes income tax plan in place since the late 1980's!

[ravenwolf]

Today is my last day on the job, i just turned 75 last month and one of the reasons i am quitting is because the job has been going down hill and the other reason is that there are other things i would like to do.

I don,t think i can live on a little more than a thousand a month but i figure on making a fortune by prospecting for gold, ha ha.

The only difference between social security and the internet ponzi schemes is that on the internet it is voluntary, however there are so many people just like me who are of the will of the wisp type and do not think of the future, that and the fact that i have been self employed a few times, ( yeah those rich business men ) many people felt something had to be done so they came up with what we got.

As some one once told me, Government is full of educated fools and the bigger government gets the more fools they get, it is time to try a different kind of retirement plan.

At any rate i have paid into it for many years and i am not going to volunteer to let them keep it.

[SoJoCo]

A Gallup poll taken in May found that 67 percent of Americans believe that Social Security and Medicare are already creating or will within ten years create “a crisis for the federal government.” That included 54 percent of Democrats. Another 19 percent expect the crisis within 10 to 20 years. Only 4 percent said the programs would not create a problem for more than 20 years, and 7 percent said “not in the foreseeable future.”

And over 60 percent say that they also oppose cuts to Social Security and Medicare. So being hell-bent on ending Social Security is a wise course only if you have a better alternative to offer. Still waiting on Perry to identify that.