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To: Revtwo

Stupid idea. When your daughter is praying the cop will shoot her kidnapping carjacker who is forcing her to take money out of the ATM, before he rapes and kills her,,,,, the cop will have a legal duty to retreat. He can’t even use force if he happened upon him at the very beginning,, carjacking her!

Yes,, this idiotic lunatic proposal even makes it mandatory that the cop run away and not fire, EVEN to protect an innocent third person. We must protect the predators. We can train the cops to do a great report when someone finds her carcass though. But again,, how do they arrest him when they do solve it,, if he presents a gun, the cops must ALWAYS retreat.

Yeah,,, gotta love this!


5 posted on 09/08/2011 6:54:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

If, on the other hand, this would be a bad law for cops, then what makes it a good law for citizens? “Equal under the law” does not mean, some animals are more equal than others. Citizens have no less a reason to protect their own lives than cops do theirs.


8 posted on 09/08/2011 7:14:00 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: DesertRhino
Which do you think is more likely to happen, a cop protecting an innocent third party with a firearm or that same innocent person defending themselves with a firearm. Statistically an individual is far more likely to be in a position to defend themselves than be in a position where a Cop is going to defend them instead.

As that is the case it only makes sense that the laws that apply to the peons civilians also apply to the ruling class enforcers police officers.

9 posted on 09/08/2011 7:19:35 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: DesertRhino
See my posting on NH law. In the scenario you described there is no obligation to retreat for anyone at any place. The nearest armed citizen or police officer is legally entitled to use deadly force against the carjacker.

And in this state that's exactly what they would do. Not too long ago a criminal shot and killed a police officer during a traffic stop in the northern part of NH. The next person to arrive at the scene was an armed citizen. He shot and killed the criminal.

14 posted on 09/08/2011 8:21:24 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: DesertRhino
Stupid idea. When your daughter is praying the cop will shoot her kidnapping carjacker who is forcing her to take money out of the ATM, before he rapes and kills her,,,,, the cop will have a legal duty to retreat. He can’t even use force if he happened upon him at the very beginning,, carjacking her!

Pay attention much? That is in essence the very point. That all the things you foresee are the things NH LEO's think THE CITIZENS should have a duty to retreat from. This group (a PRO-gun group) is simply pointing out that anything that's good enough for us, the public, is obviously more than good enough for those ostensibly subservient to our group, state actors.

17 posted on 09/09/2011 5:19:15 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DesertRhino
When your daughter is praying the cop will shoot her kidnapping carjacker who is forcing her to take money out of the ATM, before he rapes and kills her,,,

Really? You do watch way too much TV. There are no documented cases of LEOs being present during this straw man scenario you have described. LEOs are not super humans in capes and tights who swoop down from the heavens and rescue damsels in distress, rather they are only around much later, if at all, to string up the yellow tape and write reports.

18 posted on 09/09/2011 5:26:31 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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