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1 posted on 09/05/2011 9:37:04 AM PDT by mdittmar
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They just need more money! /sarc


2 posted on 09/05/2011 9:37:55 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Their solution-GIVE US MONEY OR WE’LL SHUT DOWN.


3 posted on 09/05/2011 9:39:46 AM PDT by HarleyD
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God forbid they actually try to figure out how to do their work more efficiently.

I for one would be perfectly happy to get mail delivered 3x per week.


4 posted on 09/05/2011 9:40:50 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (Welcome to Costco. I love you. Welcome to Costco. I love you.)
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LOL. More like too important to Congress to fail.


5 posted on 09/05/2011 9:43:23 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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Their Pensions are ludicrous,How did they get that kind of money given to them?
6 posted on 09/05/2011 9:44:02 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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Another mess which will fall on Obama’s plate.

Obama will blame it on the failures of Bush to deal with this problem.

I will never understand why it has been okay, for almost three years now, for Obama to say he inherited problems, yadda, yadda, yadda, and the liberals and MSM lap it all up.

Every president in history has inherited problems from the previous administration, and/or, had to deal with onoing problems which festered and were not dealt with. You might think that true leadership would be to come up with your plans to solve these problems, rather than complain about them.

And that’s especially true when you consider the grueling process involved in running for president in the first place. Obama wanted that job badly, and things fell into place for him in the primaries, and the general election. Being president is an honor, a priviledge, and a ton of hard work. But if you are a real leader, you will not sit around and complain, you will come up with plans to deal with the issues of the day.

I’m sure Obama will say that we have to have a solvent postal service, blame Bush for not solving this problem, then call for a tax increase to pay for it all.


7 posted on 09/05/2011 9:44:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Well it is going to be up to our Next president NOT to pardon Zippy,He badly needs jailed!


8 posted on 09/05/2011 9:46:00 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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The beginning of “the spiral?”


10 posted on 09/05/2011 9:50:30 AM PDT by papertyger
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Shouldn’t the pension fund have been in safe keeping somewhere?


11 posted on 09/05/2011 9:50:30 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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But...but...but if the post office closes down, the policemen, firefighters, teachers, children and the elderly won't be able to get any mail! Those wascally Wepublicans! It's all their fault.

sarc/

12 posted on 09/05/2011 9:50:44 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Coming November 2012 - The End of an Error.)
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The average salary for these guys is $86,000 a year.

AVERAGE.

There are scores of thousands of uneducated boobs pulling in 6 figure jobs.

The average Federal salary (FBI agents, Dept of Defense employees, etc) is $63,000 a year - and many of these employees have masters degrees and specialized training.

The postal union has got away with murder in recent years. Their pensions are lavish. Our military heroes are not paid that generously in retirement!

Something has to give.

13 posted on 09/05/2011 9:50:54 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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Can some current or former USPS employee explain to the rest of us just what the "reorganization" of the Post Office did? I believe the former civil service swamp of patronage jobs underwent what I thought was a "privatization" in the early 70's.

Prior to the changes the Postmaster General, a cabinet level position, was the dispenser of all political patronage jobs for the administration.

Regards,
GtG

17 posted on 09/05/2011 10:05:31 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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The Postal Service is in trouble because of a Bush‐era (2006) law that requires the USPS to massively  prefund the cost of retiree health benefits over the next 75 years in just 10 years’ time. This cost covers  not only current employees, but employees who have yet to be hired – and it is on top of the cost for  health benefits for current retirees.  No other company or agency in America is required to pre‐fund  future retiree health benefits.  No rational company would choose to make pre‐funding future retiree health benefits the highest  corporate priority in today’s economy – and no company would use all its borrowing capacity to do so.   But that is precisely what the Postal Service has been forced to do.  As a result, it will soon exhaust its $15  billion borrowing authority ‐‐ a line of credit established in 1970 to permit the USPS to invest in its retail  and mail processing networks and to keep its huge vehicle fleet up to date.       In 2005, the Postal Service did not even have to use its borrowing authority. It had no outstanding debt;  today it has $13.2 billion in debt.  Virtually all this debt has been used to finance the pre‐funding of retiree  health benefits ‐‐ not to restructure the Postal Service’s network of facilities, or to replace its old vehicle  fleet, or to invest in new products and services to meet the emerging needs of the nation’s economy.    No other federal agency in any of the three branches of government is required to pre‐fund future retiree  health benefits.  Congress mandated prefunding for the USPS, but it does not pre‐fund and none of its  special agencies ‐‐ the General Accountability Office, the Congressional Research Service, the  Congressional Budget Office or the Library of Congress – do either.  The USPS is financially self‐sufficient.  It pays for its operations through the sale of postage and has not  received any taxpayer subsidy since 1982.  In 1971, before postal reorganization took effect, Treasury  appropriations covered nearly 25% of the P.O.D.’s budget.  In today’s dollars, that would cost taxpayers  approximately $16.25 billion.  So postal reorganization has saved taxpayers tens of billions of dollars since  1970.  The Postal Service delivers 40% of the world’s mail Critics complain that labor costs make up a higher percentage of total USPS costs (80%) than they do in  the private companies (50%‐65%).  But the comparison is misleading.  The USPS is a universal service  provider of basic services that requires daily delivery to 7 ‐8 times as many addresses each day than the  private companies, which focus on parcels and freight services that are targeted to a much narrower  range of recipients. The USPS function is inherently more labor intensive.  Indeed, the Postal Service’s last  mile delivery network is so efficient that the private companies rely on it to reach places they don’t serve.   The Parcel Select product allows private companies to drop ship to post offices for last mile delivery by  letter carriers – the Fed Ex version of this service, FedEx SmartPost is the fastest growing division within  the Memphis‐based company.   Facts...they are a terrible thing. Freepers with USPSDS should be ashamed of their ignorance. You look like a bunch of knee-jerk libs. Astounding! Conservatives claim to be against government mandates. Wonder what the response would be from Freepers if Obama mandated all companies with more than 250 employees follow the same mandate the USPS must follow on prefunding. Lets see any other company that can survive that mandate!
18 posted on 09/05/2011 10:06:14 AM PDT by ltrman61
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It’s a headfake, otherwise known as a steaming pile. USPS has to prefund it’s pensions and health care out to 75 years in the future, otherwise it would be showing a $2billion profit. Can’t make a profit, so the money must be shoved into a hole somewhere. USPS will NOT shut down this winter, bank on it.


27 posted on 09/05/2011 10:25:19 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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Whadya think Sam?
31 posted on 09/05/2011 10:33:47 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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Another obama first.

First Presentdent to preside over the U.S. Postal Service going T's-up.

37 posted on 09/05/2011 10:45:47 AM PDT by skimbell
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Just a few short days back someone some where insisted to me that the post office did not use tax dollars to fund.UH HUH really so what would those be called if Congress steps in and bails them out....tax dollars?


63 posted on 09/05/2011 12:33:13 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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The good news is that we only need 100 trillion dollars to keep it afloat.

For three more weeks.


69 posted on 09/05/2011 1:46:56 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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USPS running out of cash

Shut-er-Down!!!

88 posted on 09/05/2011 5:12:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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So much for the TV commercials about the USPS being self sufficient!

Let em die because they lie!


95 posted on 09/05/2011 5:45:53 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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