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SWAT team cleared in Framingham shooting
myfoxboston.com ^ | 01 Sept 2011 | Danielle Ameden

Posted on 09/03/2011 10:15:54 PM PDT by smokingfrog

The Framingham Police SWAT Team accidentally shot and killed a grandfather during a drug raid this year.

The MetroWest Daily News reports that an independent review has cleared officers of any wrongdoing.

Eurie Stamps Sr., 68, was shot while lying face down on the floor during a raid on Jan. 5.

A SWAT officer was moving to restrain someone else, when he lost his balance and accidentally shot his rifle, hitting and killing Stamps.

The MetroWest Daily News says the report criticized the SWAT team, but found that they were well-trained in their right to have the safeties on their weapons turned off.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxboston.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; leounions; negligentdischarge; seiuleos; swat; unions
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Well trained?

Uh-uh

The town is expecting to defend a wrongful death suit from Stamps' family.

1 posted on 09/03/2011 10:15:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

BL’ers should have fun defending this one............


2 posted on 09/03/2011 10:18:21 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: smokingfrog

Yeah what a bunch lies and coverups that article contains. They are so rushing to cover their butts one has to wonder if they are hiding a first degree murder.


3 posted on 09/03/2011 10:26:16 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: smokingfrog; Titan Magroyne

BS ping


4 posted on 09/03/2011 10:29:02 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw [Robert A. Heinlein])
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At least bring the guy up on charges of man-swatter.


5 posted on 09/03/2011 10:29:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: smokingfrog
"A SWAT officer was moving to restrain someone else, when he lost his balance and accidentally shot his rifle, hitting and killing Stamps. "

Precedent for when one of us slips and accidentally shoots a union member LEO.

Wife's patched up numerous SWAT guys that have shot themselves.

They are really unprofessional weapons handlers.

6 posted on 09/03/2011 10:31:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Obama is bad luck for the US.)
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To: smokingfrog

OHHGEEZGOLLYWOW!

Now let me see: Gramps is trussed up on the floor, hands cuffed probably very TIGHTLY behind his back.

Rambo wannabe jumping around with HOT weapon, (after all, maybe some slim ball just MIGHT jump outta the closet)and, with HIS DUMB ASS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER, lets go and caps the oldster, trussed up, lying on the floor.

Nothing criminal here!!!!

This dumb f**k should be prosecuted for CRIMINAL STUPIDITY!!

But, he IS a bureaucrat, and therefore, cannot be held accountable for anything dumba** that he does.

What the hell have we come to?


7 posted on 09/03/2011 10:36:43 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Read the MetroWest Daily News article.

They have this crazy 'points" system (known as a SWAT threat-assessment matrix) they use to determine whether or not the use of a SWAT team is justified. No common sense or accountability. They can probably fudge the numbers to suit their purpose anyway.

8 posted on 09/03/2011 10:43:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

How is that wrongdoing when they “accidently” shot someone who should not have been shot?


9 posted on 09/03/2011 10:48:35 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

How is it NOT, I mean


10 posted on 09/03/2011 10:48:58 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

It was a preventable accident - on more than one level.


11 posted on 09/03/2011 10:50:52 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
The MetroWest Daily News says the report criticized the SWAT team, but found that they were well-trained in their right to have the safeties on their weapons turned off.

So SWAT has a right to waltz around with safety off, and finger on the trigger? Who gave them that "right"? And what's the corresponding duty that goes along with that "right". How many more "rights" will be found as more negligent manslaughters are racked up? Joe Citizen would be lucky to cop a plea to unintentional manslaughter, along with being easy pickings in a civil suit.

I'm so glad we're being protected by our self-selected elites.

12 posted on 09/03/2011 10:57:57 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: smokingfrog

Ooh, the swat team was criticized. That’ll show ‘em. An AD resulting in a death should result in officer F**kup getting booted to the curb or at least permanently polishing a chair with his butt. Of course the city’s liability insurance will pay for his mistake.


13 posted on 09/03/2011 11:02:23 PM PDT by Free in Texas (Corruptisima Re Publica Plurimae Leges-In the most corrupt state are the most laws (Terence)
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To: smokingfrog

Does anyone recall a SWAT team that wasn’t cleared, no matter what they did?

Ever?


14 posted on 09/03/2011 11:11:11 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Iron Munro

I can’t think of any off hand.


15 posted on 09/03/2011 11:14:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: GeronL
How is that [not] wrongdoing when they "accidently" shot someone who should not have been shot?

Soldiers sometimes accidently kill bystanders when engaged in combat.

I would have thought a Drug War supporter would see it in that light.

16 posted on 09/03/2011 11:43:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: smokingfrog; Squantos
Read the MetroWest Daily News article.

I read the article. What a stinkin' load of crap, and their chief and the "independent expert" are both morons. Not even the sleaziest lawyer could convince a jury to let a citizen go free using a system like that. I don't know what the rest of their "threat matrix" looks like, but it's apparently an excuse not use your brains and common sense.

I hate to break the bad news to liberals, but just because they proclaim their police to be our elite overlords, the laws of the universe still apply to them, too. This is one waiver 0bama can't grant.

As with us poor subjects, stick your finger in the trigger guard, and the weapon WILL go off, even for the anointed appointed. The "expert" is dead wrong. A safety can only prevent firing when the weapon is dropped, or suffers some rare mechanical failure. It is not there to allow the cop to stick his finger inside the trigger guard during stressful moments.

The shooting was negligent, and the whitewash disgraceful and total BS. Are our "elite" so elite they can do away with common sense, and use some secret checklist instead?

17 posted on 09/03/2011 11:48:49 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: smokingfrog

I am in Afghanistan and we always have our safties set until needed. You never leave your finger on the trigger, always next to but not on...ever. I think Barney Fife should only get one bullet from now on. The army does not believe in accidental discharges and neither should our police forces.


18 posted on 09/04/2011 12:19:44 AM PDT by path38
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To: Ken H
" Soldiers sometimes accidently kill bystanders when engaged in combat."

Yes they do, but this is entirely different. This SWAT team are not soldiers in The War on Drugs, they are members of a local police force who think they are military because they have military boots etc.

How difficult is it to flick the safety off on an M16 before you fire it? But NO, they have permission and training to have the safety off. This rule will cost the taxpayers some large money.

19 posted on 09/04/2011 12:43:34 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Ken H
I would have thought a Drug War supporter would see it in that light.

shooting innocent people? Nah, I'll leave that to the drug addled liberaltarian pedophiles.

20 posted on 09/04/2011 12:57:36 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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