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To: caww; MestaMachine; Grunthor; Tempest

Freepers will decide what articles they choose or not to read....Perry needs vetting and his history shown...you can make all the excuses for him you want...but the facts are there. BTW....Next time you use my name in a post do the courtesy of pinging me as most due and the standard here on FR. Instead of just throwing it about with your own comments.


caww - I did ping you twice on two seperate threads. You never responded to me. MestaMachine posted links concerning a legitimate issue with Perry and one that causes me concern. I have commented on it previously and it appears that Perry got caught up in the same wave of Islamic multiculturalism the GOP fancied at that time.

I am not a fan. However, in fairness Perry has had more time on the big stage to make mistakes than any other candidate out there. Reagan made more than a few too. In context, there was a big rush post 9/11 by many politicians to try to encourage tolerance by all Americans toward moderate Muslims. The stories MestaMachine posted concern things that occurred in 2004 and 2005. It was consistent with what other Republicans did. Candidate Palin echoed McCain on the issue too but that was only 2 years ago.

That was my point last night. The same standard should be applied evenly. Context is also helpful given that many of the criticisms thrown at Perry are rather dated. Our opinions on many subjects evolve and politicians are no different. I suspect during the nomination process we will hear more from every candidate on the issue of Islam. That will carry more weight than what he/she did years ago.

However, the sinister sounding post you made regarding an investment by Bahrain into an Austin based publically traded internet company has no relevance that I can find. The fact that Perry is friends with the CEO is not a big deal and Bahrain is one of our best allies in that region. They have been investing all over America... not just Texas.

Tempest posts his crap and does not respond. He seems to enjoy making people angry and does not hang around to defend what he posted. This is your chance to tell me why Perry’s friendship with a CEO for a publically traded company that Bahrain invested in matters. You are obviously insinuating something so come out and say it. Defend it.

I would also love to hear you defend Palin’s support for McCain who is the poster child for the wrongs of the GOP. McCain’s stances on almost every issue are far to the left of Perry’s yet Palin just campaigned for him a year ago.

Furthermore, I don’t understand why Palin would even like McCain after the way he and his campaign staff treated her. This causes me more concern than most of the crap being posted about Perry on here. I am also a Palin fan but her obvious blindspot for McCain is troubling. I understand that he gave her a shot but he did not do her any favors during or after that I could see and she does not owe him anything. His policies lost and they don’t share stances on issues.

There are many Muslim Americans and more than a few Muslim Texans. We can all decide for ourselves what Governor Perry’s actions meant in context. Again, why does it matter to this conversation that Bahrain invested in an Austin based technology firm?

There has been a pattern on every Perry thread of drive-by’s. It is rare that anyone hangs around to discuss the issue in a rational and fair manner. That is what I would like to see on this website. I have an open mind so let’s talk about it.


169 posted on 09/04/2011 8:56:02 PM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: volunbeer

Discussions about this topic are verboten where the perry supporers aree concerned. The twists and turns and deliberate confusion, not to mention downright nastiness, make it very difficult to hav any kind ofrationalconverstion whenthey will not evendmittheproblem exists. And it does. Thisprogram in several Texas school districts has not ended as they would have you believe.
Perry’s association and friendship with aga khan go back to his days as lt. governor...and there are other associations that are worrisome as well.
Here are the urls from past recent *conversations*. There is a lot of information about this on these threads.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2764459/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2764368/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2764581/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2766609/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2773335/posts


171 posted on 09/04/2011 9:14:19 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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