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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :"In 2007 I don’t know how many times GWB supporters on FR chided me that the “triggers” in McCain-Kennedy were “the best we can get,” and I was going to be sorry because the Dems were going to pass amnesty with “no border security” next time."

Well that's why the RINOs were \gleeful about Pelosi winning, so the 'best they could get" was complete crap. That is when I noticed you dont pass ANY reforms if Dems are in charge.

87 posted on 09/01/2011 10:28:00 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs; South40; DoughtyOne
That is when I noticed you dont pass ANY reforms if Dems are in charge.

That is what has been happening so far, but I have a funny feeling that things may change.

Here is my view of things: From a leftist point of view, Obama was not very good at his job in his first 4 years, but in his second term he might get his sea legs. With a second term, he has nothing to lose. An incumbent POTUS who wins reelection can win some seats in congress, and those conservative justices on the SCOTUS are not getting younger.

What if Hillary had been elected POTUS in 2008 with the House and 60 senators? My hunch is that she would have been more likely to pass amnesty, crap and trade, etc. in her first term. I am aftraid Obama in a second term might start becoming more "effective."

Nothing is 100% certain. What is the probability of Obama getting a chance to put an Eric Holder clone on the court, or even pusing amnesty through, vs. the probability of Perry or Romney succeeding in pushing amnesty through?

I don't know. I will be worried if Obama or a RINO is elected. I would like Cain or Bachmann to be the nominee, but I don't think either would beat Obama.

92 posted on 09/02/2011 12:07:06 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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