[dr_lew]

Indeed, teleology permeates common language and thinking. Just heard the other day at lunch that cattle “were not designed” to eat corn. But this is all a matter of rhetoric, as is the invocation, “by definition”. By definition, a creature is a created being. End of story. Case closed. Evolution, take a walk.

[papertyger]

But this is all a matter of rhetoric, as is the invocation, “by definition”.

Actually, no. It is an appeal to the law of identity. A = A.