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To: cowboyway

This is getting even funnier with each new clown.

Of course you don’t refute what you CANNOT refute. Only the Adams president was a break in the chain of either pro-slavery or outright slave owning (not the same thing) presidents. Pro-slavery (or indifferent) forces controlled Congress. Anti-slavery forces in the North were always a minority and concentrated in the Abolitionists who had little political control anywhere until the 1850s and even then it was small. The Slave Power was so strong that it was able to pass and enforce the abomination of the Fugitive Slave Act. This was one of the blunders it made which so infuriated the Yankees that many more were becoming anti-slavery when the Wah fell upon them.

As for you ridiculous stunt of claiming the Barbary Wars or 1812 or even Mexico showed a great federal military power while it is a contemptible stunt unworthy of any serious thought you won’t get off so easily.

The Barbary Wars involved very little American military power. Jefferson’s allies in the Congress had reduced Adams’ requests to build a bigger navy and had consistently resisted any expansion of the military. However, he was FORCED to fight the pirates after becoming president with the reduced military and naval forces he had helped create.
So a few dozen warships and privateering military attacks do not constitute a large military.

The War of 1812 was lost except for the Battle of New Orleans and a few naval victories. Only because a general of genius, Andrew Jackson, wielded a rag-tag lot of state militia, volunteers, pirates into a fighting force did the British lose. That same general’s attitude towards such treason as secession represented is summed up by his threat when president to hang South Carolina’s “nullifiers”. Can you even imagine what he would have done to those insane enough to fire on federal forts and men?

Ironically the Mexican War strengthened the South’s military capacity and spirit at least as much and probably more than the North. Many of the generals and politicians of the Cornfederacy cut their teeth in the US Army in Mexico. Lee and Davis are the most prominent. But the Southerners stayed in the army in a greater proportion after the drastic cutback following the war. America has always drastically cut the military back to pre-war standards after a war. The 1850s were no exception.

The fact is the Blue states are paying more than their fair share of the freight for the nation as a whole. Most of the problems they face are posed by the descendents of those enslaved by the Slave Power. So the entire nation is still plagued by after-shocks from slavery.

History does not move as fast as we would like unfortunately.


292 posted on 09/17/2011 12:01:20 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob
From you: "the South controlled the entire federal government until 1860."

So it's your revisionist belief that the north didn't send any congressmen to DC until after 1860? Like I said, your statement is so ridiculous that it doesn't deserve a response.

From you: "the federal government was TINY, it had almost no army. It threatened nothing."

I refuted that stupidity by listing three wars that the US engaged in prior to 1861 in which they were a definite threat. And as you know, it didn't take long for the US to raise a huge army and mass them on the USA/CSA border where they became much more than a threat.

Most of the problems they face are posed by the descendents of those enslaved by the Slave Power.

You racist pig.

297 posted on 09/18/2011 7:01:21 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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