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To: Poundstone

agreed.... I am sick and tired of people calling me greedy for wanting nothing more than what I paid into socialist security...to date I have paid over 350,000.00 DOLLARS into the system...that is not rubles, or pesos...that is 350K of U.S. dollars....if some greedy ass, get reelected at all costs politican spent it, that is not my problem...I am not greedy, it’s the damn politicans that are...lets put the blame where it belongs...


4 posted on 08/29/2011 7:31:27 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

Let’s put the politicians where they belong ... at the looped end of a rope maybe? What did they do with thieves in the Old West? And that’s what said politicians have shown themselves to be!


14 posted on 08/29/2011 7:39:40 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: joe fonebone

I agree with most of your statement. The only problem I have is with the politicians. The American people put them in office but did not control them. We are at fault to some degree. Now it’s time to fix it. Don’t let them collect full pensions for just serving one term. Don’t let them put all the taxes we pay into a general fund so we can’t track the money. We need to re-do how the politicians operate. They work for us and need to be controlled.


15 posted on 08/29/2011 7:39:56 AM PDT by RC2
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To: joe fonebone
if some greedy ass, get reelected at all costs politican spent it, that is not my problem

Whose problem is it then? Mine? My kids? I don't think so.

If somebody (in this case, the greedy ass politician) owes you money and doesn't have it, it most certainly IS your problem.

21 posted on 08/29/2011 7:44:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: joe fonebone
I am sick and tired of people calling me greedy for wanting nothing more than what I paid into socialist security

You're greedy. You know - or should know - damn well that that money isn't there, and it can only be given to you by taking it from the next generation which is guaranteed to get nothing of value at all in exchange for what you wish to take from them.

It was your responsibility to keep tabs on that money and hold the politicians who spent it (much of that at a time when the people you expect to pay for it were too young to get a vote in the matter, if they were even born yet). You failed that responsibility. It is not the next generation's job to make up for your failures.

There are few evils more pernicious than intergenerational debt.

22 posted on 08/29/2011 7:46:02 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Draft Napolitano 2012)
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To: joe fonebone
...to date I have paid over 350,000.00 DOLLARS into the system...

How many years have you paid into the system? Have you always paid at the top of the wage cap? Are you including both your and your employer's contribution?

29 posted on 08/29/2011 7:51:51 AM PDT by kabar
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To: joe fonebone
"agreed.... I am sick and tired of people calling me greedy for wanting nothing more than what I paid into socialist security...to date I have paid over 350,000.00 DOLLARS into the system...that is not rubles, or pesos...that is 350K of U.S. dollars....if some greedy ass, get reelected at all costs politican spent it, that is not my problem...I am not greedy, it’s the damn politicans that are...lets put the blame where it belongs..."

Back when my Daughter was about 4 or 5 years old (she turned 16 this year) was at a Q&A with a Politiclown that was running for the Rep Party nomination for my House District.

He was going on about how important Social Security would be to our children. I started asking questions about the SS program and it was quickly evident this clown had no knowledge of how it all worked. He was incredulous that I thought Social Security was a joke. He said he would go to Washington to protect my daughter's SS.

I had to the dollar of what I and my wife had paid into SS plus being an employer a ball park figure of how much I had matched in employee contributions.

I told him that if he could instead guarantee me that my daughter would never have her money taken from her by force to fund the "Ponzi Scheme" known as Social Security he could have every dollar I and my wife paid in plus all future mandatory payments we would have to pay in and we would call it even.

He just sputtered and told me I was being unreasonable. Yet many in the audience applauded and many of them were elderly Social Security recipients.

36 posted on 08/29/2011 7:55:52 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: joe fonebone
agreed.... I am sick and tired of people calling me greedy for wanting nothing more than what I paid into socialist security...to date I have paid over 350,000.00 DOLLARS into the system...that is not rubles, or pesos...that is 350K of U.S. dollars....if some greedy ass, get reelected at all costs politican spent it, that is not my problem...I am not greedy, it’s the damn politicans that are...lets put the blame where it belongs...

That $350K you paid in has been long gone. It was gone as soon as you sent it in. It was used to pay people who were on SS while you were working. And the beat goes on. Not your fault, for sure. But the idea that the money was in an account or something like that and was "raided" or "spent" by politicians is nonsense. SS doesn't work because it's a pyramid scheme. Always has been. Again, that's not your fault. But eventually they're going to have to come clean. And we the tax payers will be the ones getting screwed.
60 posted on 08/29/2011 8:24:33 AM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: joe fonebone

Each of those $350,000 were paid out to someone else the same year you paid them in. Your money is long gone. SS is a Ponzi scheme and you’ll be very fortunate if you receive 25 cents on the dollar when it’s time for you to start drawing.

Furthermore, the maximum annual contribution is a little over $6000. Have you been contributing for 58 years?


67 posted on 08/29/2011 8:29:31 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Prepare for Armageddon! Buy brass and lead!)
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To: joe fonebone

If they had let me keep my own money, I would be rich and out of debt. This deduction from my wages, if not repaid to me with interest, is a theft under any statute, state or federal.


89 posted on 08/29/2011 8:52:30 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: joe fonebone
What people do not understand about SS and Medicare is that you are not paying into the system into your own account.
What you are paying is to support those getting those benefits.
You have been supporting grandparents and parents on this system. They have and will have gotten the best of the services.
The rest of us on the other hand will probably get none or next to none. The mathematics of situation are what it is.
There are not enough workers paying into the system to support the massive number of people that are hitting and will hit SS & Medicare.
The Default and/or a collapse is coming. Don't think you or anyone else is going to get any of the monies back that were paid in, it's gone and spent.
98 posted on 08/29/2011 8:59:34 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: joe fonebone

“I am sick and tired of people calling me greedy for wanting nothing more than what I paid into socialist security”

What you paid into Social Security isn’t there waiting for you. It was used to pay for this or that, including the retirements of other people while you were working. You are greedy for wanting still other people to pay for you, especially since obviously the system is bankrupt.


154 posted on 08/29/2011 10:03:42 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: joe fonebone
>>to date I have paid over 350,000.00 DOLLARS into the system...that is not rubles, or pesos...that is 350K of U.S. dollars<<

There are idiots out there and even those who post here that will spew MSM rhetoric without even looking at those numbers. I’ve posted numbers that include compounded interest and the totals that would have accrued in the years since 1967 when I began to have money withheld from my pay to no avail. It’s still “welfare” to those “well educated” idiots.

174 posted on 08/29/2011 10:33:43 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: joe fonebone
I am sick and tired of people calling me greedy for wanting nothing more than what I paid into socialist security...to date I have paid over 350,000.00 DOLLARS into the system...that is not rubles, or pesos...that is 350K of U.S. dollars.

Your corrupt government looted SS. While government employees retire in their 50s, with lottery style tax paid retirement pensions, top shelf medical benefits, and now, the government is giving social security to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, all while charging your for hundreds of billion for illegal alien medical care and for them to have millions of anchor babies on U.S. soil.

And they tell ya your greedy and receiving entitlements which you're not entitled to?

We've been had.

179 posted on 08/29/2011 10:45:29 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: joe fonebone

Unless you made over 80,000 for the last 27 years then you could not have paid in over $350,000

I questioning your math - nothing else


220 posted on 08/29/2011 1:53:24 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: joe fonebone

To paraphrase Patrick Henry, “Under this constitution, there will never be a law against passing a bad law. Where is the means to punish them?”


236 posted on 08/29/2011 5:24:39 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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