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To: Tex-Con-Man
I have found a couple who claim to support both, but their MO is pure Paul propagandist. I think some are adding support for Palin as a cover. And they hate Perry.

You can count me out of that group. I have been arguing against Ron Paul people for the last 2 weeks on the basis of his insane statements on Iran's intentions to secure nuclear weapons. I have also defended and supported Sarah Palin from the very beginning from close family members and friends beginning with the media smears such as the "gotcha" interview questions pertaining to her reading publication preferences, to her family life, to the fact that she is a woman, to the fact that she used to be a cheerleader, to fact that she is not intelligent enough nor has enough experience nor is serious enough to lead our country, etc, etc, etc.

I am also not anti-Rick Perry as I am not anti any GOP candidate except for Ron Paul, but I do want to know and vet and evaluate EVERYTHING about ANY AND ALL candidates as I can on what matters most of all. That isn't demographics, religions, how a person looks or speaks or what gender they are or who their friends are, or WHO MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE THEM; but how they stand on the ISSUES and what their actions are under the pressures and temptations of POWER. If Rick Perry is still standing, I will support and vote for him. If Mitt Romney is still standing, I will support and vote for him. If Sarah Palin gets in and wins, the same for her (don't think it can't happen). But I will ALWAYS seek out and reason for the positive and argue against the negative of any GOP candidate. To do otherwise is foolishness.

If you want to reason on that basis, then you will find no qualms with me. If you want to ignore the DOCUMENTED evidence of Perry's CRONY CAPITALISM, then you will continue to try and smear your opposition and fail to figure out what is the truth. You need to address those who are bringing the accusations first, before you try and attack people for how they interpret those accusations. You are at a very weak position otherwise and your only choice is to smear smear and smear some more, making you an enemy of the truth.

Truth does not exist in a vacuum. You can fight the truth all you want, but there is always consequences one way or the other.

109 posted on 08/29/2011 7:40:16 AM PDT by Force of Truth (Intelligence and virtue are preferable in a candidate, but I'd much rather he or she be chinchy.)
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To: Force of Truth
You can create a straw man and slap a name tag on him with my name on it, but he still won't be able to cash my checks...because he ain't me.

You self selected out of the group I described...good for you.

However, there is an organized effort by the Paullelujah Chorus to destroy Perry before he gains traction. That is close to an exact quote as written by a freeper Paul supporter from their own postings. They purposely, repeatedly posted the most salacious rumors. Ones that had been proved false. They were not in the pursuit of truth, but engaged in a dishonest effort to besmirch Perry's reputation.

As I am undecided, I have no problem with honest vetting of all the candidates. My problem is with the handful of candidate cheerleaders trying to disguise themselves as objective truthseekers, while their only real intent is to create false impressions about their perceived competition.

113 posted on 08/29/2011 10:01:28 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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