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To: Hugin

Perry’s support of the Death Penalty is a reason not to support him. America has far too advanced prison systems to warrant a Death Penalty, morally speaking. Perry’s open borders is another reason not to support him. Perry ‘01 - ‘Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace’ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2763343/posts Perry’s big government policies is another reason not to support him. Perry increases size of government increases debt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5—QIv5yw34 Perry’s belief that the government should forcibly induce medical practices on private citizens is another reason not to support him. http://www.youtube.com/watchv=q7QMpx6xoeM&feature=related Texas Governor Rick Perry Exposed - Six graders forced by STATE to get STD Vaccine Rick Perry’s support for ACORN is another reason not to support him: We Are ACORN Mighty, Mighty ACORN: Rick Perry Edition http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2762618/posts Rick Perry has a lot of gonads talking about Bush/McCain/Gates...another reason not to support him: Rick Perry Running for U.S. President of Chinese Cyber Espionage: http://wonkette.com/451238/rick-perry-running-for-president-of-chinese-cyber-espionage In 2000, when Perry first became governor, total spending by the state of Texas was $49 billion. At the end of 2010, it was $90 billion...another reason not to support him: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/06/first-look-rick-perry.html Besides Perry’s economic policy, immigration policy, education policy, transportation policy, energy policy, trade policy and increase taxes policy, one can say he’s not a socialist...but they would be hard pressed to prove it! As a border state governor, Mr. Perry signed state immigration law in 2001 known as the Texas DREAM Act. Here is an excerpt from a speech Governor Perry gave during the border summit in August of 2001: “We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.” http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2011/06/23/rick-perry/ Another massive attack on parental rights and peaceful home schoolers; Religious Oppression. 438 children ripped away from parents and traumatized for months. Out of control Child Protective Services raid, approved by Rick Perry, and based on a CRANK phone call from Colorado alleging child abuse; breaks up dozens of families. Of ALL the outrageous things Perry has done, this may be the WORST as he criminally traumatized and endangered dozens of peaceful families. http://www.johntfloyd.com/blog/2009/07/25/the-unrelenting-march-against-flds/ (2008)


78 posted on 08/27/2011 2:51:24 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
Perry’s support of the Death Penalty is a reason not to support him. America has far too advanced prison systems to warrant a Death Penalty, morally speaking.

That's your opinion. I strongly disagree. I don't support the death penalty because there is no alternative, or even as a deterent. I support it for two reasons; first because there is no other just response for the deliblerate poaching of human life. For the murderer to be walking around and breathing, even incarcerated, is not justice. Secondly, it is needed because the vast majority believe it is just. Our whole criminal justice system is a mutual pact between citizens that we will forgo the personal taking of revenge (there is nothing wrong with just revenge), in exchange for allowing the state to carry out justice for us. Any time the people do not feel justice has been done it undermines the entire system, and pushes people to distrespect for the legal system. The eventual result is people will take matters into their own hands. If the vast majority was agaisnt captial punishment, as they are in some countries, that would be a compelling argument against it. But here most people support it.

79 posted on 08/27/2011 3:11:13 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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