Rick Perry and the Largest Tax Hike In Texas

thenewamerican.com ^ | 8/23/11 | Kelly Holt

[TADSLOS]

That was a poorly thought out tax bill.

There's alot of other things about Perry's decision making that's poorly thought out.

TTC
Gardasil
Support of La Raza
Texas DREAM Act
Establishment of Corporate Welfare Programs (ETF/TEF)

At best, Perry is a blundering fool rubbing elbows with cronies while wasting Texan's tax money in the process. At worst, he's a big governemnt statist liberal republican with an election primary timed innoculation of conservative rhetoric designed to mask his true condition from conservative voters.

Will the real Rick Perry please show himself? Not until it's too late (again). See 2000, 2004, 2008 for a historical perspective of GOP Perry's coming attractions.

[GatorGirl]

I live in America. I support the First Amendment. Obviously you don’t.

Have a nice day!

[sforkjoe57]

It’s a good thing Ronald Reagan ran in 1980 instead of 2012. Obviously, after being a democrat most of his life and a union boss, he would have been ripped to shreds by internet purists.

Perry isn’t perfect but I’m not a purist. I think a Perry/Kasich ticket would have the best chance of getting a 60 seat majority in the senate and increasing the Republican majority in the house. No Republican president is going to change Washington much without 60 votes in the senate.

[smokingfrog]

The TX legislature put a cap on raising property taxes so they had to make up for the loss by taxing business. They’re going to get their $$ one way or the other it seems.

[Marie]

Perry realizes that he was wrong NOW, but he sure didn’t at the time. He held a press conference after it was all over where he surrounded himself with cancer survivors and blasted his critics.

http://thefreedombulletin.com/?s=gardasil

You have to understand why this issue and the TTC bothers so many of us so much. There are two issues (among many) that lay at the heart of conservationism that are not up for debate: Parental rights and property rights. Gardasil and the TTC debacle stomped on both of these fundamental principles in a big way.

If he was willing to do these things, what else is he willing to do? What other fundamental principle is he willing to stomp on?

What I’m seeing are a lot of optimistic conservatives that brush off these serious violations because they simply hate Obama so much. They just want the current administration’s crap to end and aren’t too concerned about how it happens.

I want it to end, too. But I want it to REALLY end. With a conservative majority in both houses and a solid conservative at the helm.

These are serious questions that shouldn’t be swept under the rug. I get why people like Perry. There are a lot of things that I like about him, too. But I don’t think he’s an honest conservative. An honest person cannot ignore these offenses even though we wish they weren’t there.

The time to vet these candidates is NOW. If we decide that, after a critical and detached examination of every candidate, that Perry is the best of the lot (not perfect, but the best that we’ve got) - then we support him 100%.

After the convention, when we have decided on our candidate, the time for arguing and debating will be over. Then it’s all hands on deck to defeat Obama.

But right now is when we need to by hypercritical. Right now we need to be mature enough to plow through these discussions with a serious mind and find the BEST person for this country, not just the one that has the best image.

Perry has a lot going for him and the State of Texas is a huge testament, especially during this horrible recession. But we must look at our favored candidate’s flaws. All of them. Don’t give any of these people a pass on anything.

If we find the *best* person that we have to offer, we will win. An honest conservative can and will win in 2012.

[MestaMachine]

They don’t care. They aren’t going to care no matter how much evidence you give them. All they seem interested in is having a president from Texas. So be it. It only means we need to have a better alternative...
When faced with the truth, they go away then come back on another thread with the same questions, the same responses, and act like they are blind. Can’t fix that, so I guess we overcome it.
The insults and namecalling is nasty and I’m not gonna join in with that crap. The truth is what it is. If they don’t care, nothing we say or do will make them care. There are four full threads on this subject, so to say they are uninformed is just nonsense. When faced with evidence, they deliberately misconstrue, misattribute, confuse, and obfuscate...and STILL call you a liar. Why even bother? It’s like banging your head on a brick wall.

[Texan]

Yes, I can’t complain about our business tax. Property taxes (school especially) is another matter.

[zeugma]

The article has it right on the business tax. It's essentially an income tax for businesses. It passed because, as always voters are always in favor of taxing the other guy, not realizing that businesses don't really pay taxes. The people who buy their products/services do.

[fabian]

Yes, that is not good and is common in many states. There simply should never be a property tax as we should never have to pay the government in order to keep our homes...so wrong! If we had all private and religious schools, there would be no need....we have allowed the socialization of our education system and that is exactly how the communist designed it to be.

[Steel Wolf]

I'm quite familiar with the Islamic threat, thanks. I've spent more time living in Iraq than you have on FR. And Afghanistan, come to think of it. I'm sure you're one of those hard guys that thinks everything short of a JDAM through every Muslim roof is a soft sell. All due respect to your keyboard honed combat skills, but the military routinely makes nice with every Muslim group willing to play ball, and turns them on those that don't. Some groups you can befriend and use, others you can't, and wouldn't want to.

Sunni and Shia are basically the same 1.5 billion strong religion, with a difference of opinion on the role of those who are physically descended from the prophet Muhammad. Ismailis are a minor offshoot of about 15 million who are basically peaceniks. They are not accepted by either main group because Muhammad commands them to conquer and kill., not pray quietly. That's not a slight difference of opinion.

As for CAIR, they haven't *said* anything of note about Perry, so there's nothing to soft sell. You, on the other hand, are trying your best to drum up panic over a laughable community outreach deal that any politician will do with any large enough group of constituents.

The more light you shed on this issue, the less traction it will get. I was concerned myself, until I read what the actual issue was, and how absurd it is.

[GOPyouth]

Perry signed a Hate-Crimes Law basically promoting the Homosexual agenda by so doing.

Basically, huh? Since you made the accusation, how is Perry promoting homosexuality?

Perry is against E-Verify

Perry doesn't believe that it's effective. I don't know enough about the topic to get into great detail about it. I just have to question the effectiveness of a Dept. Homeland Security run program.

Perry is against a Border Wall

Again, this is an issue of effectiveness to Perry. A wall alone will not solve a problem. It will be crossed or dug under. Take a look at San Diego and you'll see the elaborate tunnels that have been created. This is a very difficult issue.

Perry is against AZ1070

Perry's not the governor of Arizona. He said that the bill as written was not right for Texas. But he did say he supports Arizona's right to protect its citizens.

Perry is against every single effective method of controlling Illegal Immigration

He has repeatedly called on the federal government to do its duty to protect the United States against foreign borders. He has also directed state money and the state national guard to the border in order to help with the problem.

Perry push through the Nanny-State Guardisil Bill

It was an executive order where you didn't have to take the shot if you didn't want to.

Perry attempted to push through the Big-Government Trans-Texas Corridor bill which included confiscating using Eminent Domain hundreds of thousands of Acres of land privately owned by the citizens of Texas

How in the world do you think every major road has been built? People can either grant a ROW, with an agreed contract with the state or go to court. Either way, the landowners are paid. Perry can't just waive a wand and, voila, the land belongs to the State of Texas. There's a process, with it very likely being settled with a ROW deed being granted by the land owner.

[hocndoc]

Unfortunately, the people of Texas passed this thing in a State wide election. However, I do believe it’s better than a frank income tax and it did answer the court order.

There is are deductions, that change that problem for businesses with a loss. And local school district property taxes went down - where locals didn’t vote to move it as high as possible.

[dragnet2]

The article has it right on the business tax. It's essentially an income tax for businesses. It passed because, as always voters are always in favor of taxing the other guy, not realizing that businesses don't really pay taxes. The people who buy their products/services do.

Yep...

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>>It’s a good thing Ronald Reagan ran in 1980 instead of 2012. Obviously, after being a democrat most of his life and a union boss, he would have been ripped to shreds by internet purists.

Actually, Reagan was attacked in his first two serious runs for potus. In 1976 Reagan took on Pres Ford and was lambasted as a hardcore rightwinger and a political cowboy by the Rockefeller Republicans. At the same time the hardcore rightwingers called him a sellout for choosing Richard Schweiker as his running mate. In 1980, some of the same hardcore rightwingers blasted Reagan for his choice of GHW Bush for VP.

Nothing new for Reagan. He was criticized and attacked by the left and the right during his entire political career.

After he was elected President in 1980, Libertarians like Ron Paul, Murry Rothbard and others rejected Reagan. Paul called Reagan a "dramatic failure" as President. Rothbard called Reagan a "cretin".

There have always been purists in the GOP and loudmouth know-nothings. Best to ignore them. Republican primary voters will choose the best man or woman to take on Obama. Hopefully they won't be swayed by the liberal media this time around. Getting stuck with Romney as the nominee would be the worst of all. Willard was a loser in 2008 and he'd be a losing proposition once again.

[DrewsMum]

Of course nobody has to be saddled with it. Thanks to the TX state legislature..... a real conservative never would have mandated it in the first place.... period. The fact that Perry keeps having to be slapped down after governing for 12 years PROVES he is no conservative.....

[GOPyouth]

Of course nobody has to be saddled with it. Thanks to the TX state legislature.

Nobody had to be saddled with it in the first place due to not having to take it if you didn't want to take it.

[DrewsMum]

Not so..... You had to get approval from the government to “opt out” and besides, what’s the point of the mandate if there’s an opt out clause? Oh, = know.... to drum up business for a campaign donor....as it would have meant insurance companies would have to pay for the vaccine then. Nice to be in bed with a governor who will force others to buy your product......

[DTxAg]

Red South never answered this direct question yesterday, so maybe you will. How big of a campaign donor was Merck, the manufacturer of Gardasil? I’ve heard Perry got just $6,000 from them. Is that what you all are saying is the basis for Perry’s decision to mandate the vaccine, a mere $6,000?

[caww]

Visiting a Middle Eastern country? a specialist in it’s affairs does not one make. Though some might actually think it does. If it did all our troops would surely be considered such. Yet even they have to be taught and made clear about the Islamic agenda and the people they are among....some accept, others do not, and some in between.

I’m all to familiar with Shia and Sunni, as well as Ismailis. All three use the Koran as their point of reference and all three believe Mohammed is their Prophet.

Additionally there are many off beat Islamic groups besides these three.....but they all have in common their adhereance to the Koran and it’s teachings...and that Mohammed is their Prophet.

So when push comes to shove....and it will come to that...they will all stand together as their history does attest to....time and time again.... Equally as much their own Imams will attest to this.

Furthermore, if you stay current on their reltaioships you will see there has been an acceptance of the Islmailis Group despite some of their differences which remain.

I’ve already posted CAIR’s direct quotes from reliable sources that indeed CAIR is supportive of Perry and boasts the Muslim community is as well....additionally others on FR have as well. So saying Cair hasn’t said anything about Perry is not true.<p

[TexMom7]

This is the source I used. I am sorry you had troubles.

If you are wary of Perry - don’t vote for him.

We can agree to disagree. I personally think Perry did this because he genuinely thought it would help girls and that is it. What other motive would he have?
He has admitted that he made a mistake regarding this recently.

http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm#schools

§ 42.043(d)(2) is the exemption code.

§ 42.043. RULES FOR IMMUNIZATIONS.
(d) No immunization may be required for admission to a facility regulated under this chapter if a person applying for a child’s admission submits one of the following affidavits:
(1) an affidavit signed by a licensed physician stating that the immunization poses a significant risk to the health and well-being of the child or a member of the child’s family or household; or
(2) an affidavit signed by the child’s parent or guardian stating that

the applicant declines immunization for reasons of

conscience,

including a religious belief.

(d-1) An affidavit submitted under Section (d)(2) must be on a form described by Section 161.0041, Health and Safety Code, and must be submitted not later than the 90th day after the date the affidavit is notarized.