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To: death2tyrants
Where in the constitution does it say he can deny soldiers’ rights to defend themsleves?

It doesn't but that is not the point. All powers to wage war rest solely with the Executive Branch, i.e. The President. Congress controls the money not the war. Passage of this bill would have been at best pointless. In the worst case it would have weakened Presidential powers and given Congress the ability to make military policy...you want Harry Reid deciding ROE?

17 posted on 08/24/2011 5:49:27 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: JrsyJack

Oh don’t try to take sense here. The Anti-paulistas are on a rant and a roll. Bugger that silly piece of paper the Paul is so fixated on.


19 posted on 08/24/2011 5:51:21 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: JrsyJack
It doesn't but that is not the point. All powers to wage war rest solely with the Executive Branch,....

I'm pretty sure that Article I, Section 8 expressly states that congress shall have the power to "Make rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval forces."

24 posted on 08/24/2011 6:00:48 PM PDT by Tucsonican
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To: JrsyJack
FEDERALIST No. 74 The Command of the Military and Naval Forces, and the Pardoning Power of the Executive Alexander Hamilton

THE President of the United States is to be "commander-in-chief of the army and navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several States WHEN CALLED INTO THE ACTUAL SERVICE of the United States." The propriety of this provision is so evident in itself, and it is, at the same time, so consonant to the precedents of the State constitutions in general, that little need be said to explain or enforce it. Even those of them which have, in other respects, coupled the chief magistrate with a council, have for the most part concentrated the military authority in him alone. Of all the cares or concerns of government, the direction of war most peculiarly demands those qualities which distinguish the exercise of power by a single hand. The direction of war implies the direction of the common strength; and the power of directing and employing the common strength, forms a usual and essential part in the definition of the executive authority.


Such is the intent of our founding fathers.
36 posted on 08/24/2011 6:51:15 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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you say: “you want Harry Reid deciding ROE?”

I doubt even that piece of excrement would have DELIBERATELY devised ROE that give the advantage to the enemy. Denied air cover when ambused - cant' shoot until shot at etc

How many of YOU know that this traitorous CICINO devised his ROE in favor of the Taliban and have resulted in 2009 in DOUBLING our troops killed from the previous worst year? And TRIPLED in 2010? And on it's way to be 4 TIMES KIA in 2011?

And where are the voices screaming in defense of our troops?

DID you even KNOW? NO excuse just because the press is silent ever since their boy took office. We all have the Internet. The information is there. Did you know about the bases that they troops were made to just walk away from AND LEAVE big caches of weapons for the Taliban? Ever hear of THAT in the annals of warfare?

And not a word is said. And no on mentions TREASON. WAKE THE F UP!

I'll bet 99% of you won't even take to time to learn any of this by watching a few clips. I KNOW because of past disinterest on FR in this.

But for the 1% who might care about our troops:

They aren't given the air cover they need - ‘might’ kill a goat, you know. The Taliban are loving this advantage.

http://webnews.ampnetmedia.com/2009/09/were-pinned-down-4-u-s-marines-die-in-afghan-ambush/

Ever see the documentary “Restrepo”
This is the thanks this traitor in the WH gave those troop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WamBeYQeRvE

and another gift to the enemy - to use against our troops -and they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uj6sRlzgik&feature=fvwrel

chart of KIA’s - take a GOOD LOOK - and demand the media cover this!

http://icasualties.org/oef/

45 posted on 08/24/2011 7:43:51 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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