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Yes, but was this wood guilty of any criminal activity? Why should we enforce the law if the wood did nothing wrong?

I guess all the federal agents who no longer have to worry about finding Illegal immigrants need to find something to do. Might as well harrass businesses that actually make things here about their raw materials.

1 posted on 08/24/2011 1:36:34 PM PDT by cc2k
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And, in other news, Gibson announced they are moving production overseas meaning the loss of hundreds of jobs. /lol


2 posted on 08/24/2011 1:38:16 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Terrorist Hobbit)
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In a related matter Gibson Guitars announces that they’ll be
moving to China.


3 posted on 08/24/2011 1:38:43 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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You mean electric guitars are not made out of electricals?

Getting to the point, I think you earlier wanted to remark that the same federal government that shows such a lack of concern over ILLEGAL ALIENS is positively livid over ILLEGAL WOOD.

Hmm ~ whatever that means ~ not surprising at all about what's on Eric Holder's mind ~ criminals? wood? criminals? wood? ~ Fur shur that's a difficult choice for him.

4 posted on 08/24/2011 1:39:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Do these woods have a name?


8 posted on 08/24/2011 1:48:19 PM PDT by posterchild
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When Les Pauls are outlawed, only outlaws will play Les Pauls.

Guess I’m safe, being as I play a Strat. :)


9 posted on 08/24/2011 1:49:39 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Never miss an opportunity to keep your mouth shut.)
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Federal agents with the U.S. Fish & Wildlife

WTF do guitars have to do with fish and wildlife?

11 posted on 08/24/2011 1:52:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Ping!


18 posted on 08/24/2011 1:55:39 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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don’t mess with the guitars, man.


20 posted on 08/24/2011 1:56:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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Most likely some protected species of Central American mahogany. Too bad. Makes great sound boards for musical instruments, and beautiful furniture.


21 posted on 08/24/2011 1:57:34 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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Yes, but was this wood guilty of any criminal activity? Why should we enforce the law if the wood did nothing wrong?

Some woods are endangered. The most famous in terms of making guitars is Brazilian Rosewood. It's been illegal to trade under CITES since 1992 unless you can document that the wood was cut before 1992.

As for moving production from Memphis or Nashville, if I were looking for a quality Gibson acoustic guitar, I'd be looking for that Bozeman, Montana label anyway - from the old Flatiron mandolin plant.

Gibson is still struggling financially from the Nashville flooding of a couple of years ago.

22 posted on 08/24/2011 1:57:53 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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Got Wood? Not anymore.


29 posted on 08/24/2011 2:01:48 PM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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Environmental reasons? What kind of an excuse is that? Since this is BS to begin with, they certainly won’t find anything they are looking for, since they’re not looking for anything except to hinder productivity.


34 posted on 08/24/2011 2:06:12 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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I once bought a mint condition Gibson ES-175 electric guitar at a police auction for just $80. By coincidence, that night I saw an Elvis movie from the late 60s where he was playing that same guitar so I knew I had a winner. I later sold it for a nice profit.


36 posted on 08/24/2011 2:09:33 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (aka Big Daddy Goo-Goo)
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Yes, but was this wood guilty of any criminal activity? Why should we enforce the law if the wood did nothing wrong?

Maybe it's a splinter group, deeply rooted in terrorism. That would really go against the grain in the eyes of the fed.

50 posted on 08/24/2011 2:47:18 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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Typical belated government response. The Feds are about 60 years too late trying to stop the spread of the rock and roll virus!


54 posted on 08/24/2011 2:53:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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I toured this Gibson factory in December. I didn’t see no stinking endangered wood.


59 posted on 08/24/2011 3:07:01 PM PDT by Mike Evers
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This is outrageous that the Federal Government is now trying to destroy one of the few remaining successful U.S. manufacturers. I can’t imagine how wood is now considered “endangered” when a few more trees can just be planted. Eric “Nation of Cowards” Holder should be fired for this nonsense. Gibson should be rewarded for their industriousness and deserve better than this.


60 posted on 08/24/2011 3:08:09 PM PDT by purplelobster
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Nicholas Chavez, special agent in charge for U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Region 2 in Albuquerque, N.M., said agents also served a search warrant on Gibson Guitar in Nashville.

Special Agent Chavez recently had a mahogany floor installed in his home. He was assured by the salesman it was not "rain forest mahogany".

61 posted on 08/24/2011 3:13:05 PM PDT by bobzeetwin
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It was just poor illegal immigrant wood looking for a better life in the form of a geeeeetar.


65 posted on 08/24/2011 3:30:51 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Look behind the agents at whoever told them to do it. You’ll find family members, employees, former employees or other associates of a big business competitor against Gibson—probably a global outfit.


68 posted on 08/24/2011 3:43:33 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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