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Burglar killed breaking into state trooper's home
(idiot kicked in cop's back door!)
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| August 24, 2011
Posted on 08/24/2011 11:57:31 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Scotsman will be Free
Ill repeat myself. Grand juries are used by prosecutors when the prosecutor believes a crime has been committed. Pretty simple and straightforward sentence that neither expresses approval or disapproval.And I'll rephrase what I'm getting at. The likelihood of a prosecutor believing a crime has been committed in a defensive home invasion shoot varies by jurisdiction and by whether or not the homeowner is LEO.
To: Scotsman will be Free
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posted on
08/24/2011 2:35:32 PM PDT
by
americanophile
("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
To: Pearls Before Swine
I’m assuming that you have stats to back up your claim. Should be easy as I have rarely read about an LEO shooting anyone during a home invasion of his house.
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posted on
08/24/2011 2:43:07 PM PDT
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
To: Scotsman will be Free
Should be easy as I have rarely read about an LEO shooting anyone during a home invasion of his house.Let's look at it from the other side. Google "Home invasion" and "Grand Jury" and see what you find. There's 532,000 hits. I suppose you could go through the first dozen or so, like I did, and you'll find that none of them involve LEOs as the defendant. Since we agree it's rare, what are we arguing about? Do we need a scholastic study to decide that homeowners defending themselves run substantial risks?
To: Pearls Before Swine
As another freeper noted, it depends on where you live. In states with a “castle doctrine” there isn’t that problem regardless of whom is dropping the hammer. I’m not the one making claims that LEOs skate in these matters.
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posted on
08/24/2011 2:59:42 PM PDT
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
To: Arkansas Toothpick
I see that some of the FR’s are anti LEO, I have a story I was a LEO(federal) for30 years of course now retired and glad of it. In todays world, I would be in a gunfight once a week with the lack of respect out there. So those of you that think LEOs get off, go and apply and deal with the punks every day, put on your vest and hope you come home in one piece or at all. When I was getting close to retirement, my partner and I had to go and serve a warrant on a scum bag that was passing phony checks, we arrived at his travel trailer and he opened fire with a .30/.30, poor shot. Ran into the bush, then blind sided us, luckily he was up on a hill and the elevation made his trajcetory a bit off, he then ran into the bush again. I, how I did it, must of been the adrenalin pump jumped behind a rock, saw the SOB and fired, blew his knee clean off Remington.750 crappy rifle, if I had had my 30-06 he would have got one in the head or at least center body mass. Any how, guess what I had to go before a shooting review board that consisted of two just out of college males and some female dofus. They wanted to skin me and grand jury me and all kinds of B.S. The female started by saying “you know that the man you will never be able to walk correctly again?”, “I am sorry about that”, I replied. The three of them smiled thinking that I was truly sorry that the bastard that had tried to kill my partner and I was missing a kneecap. “I was aiming for his center body mass and if I had had my personal rifle he would be dead and we wouldn't be having this conversation.” It was found to be a good shoot. I believe the chief had something to do with that ruling as he was connected. Anyhow the point is that LEOs have a tough enough time of it even back then so give them some slack they have a tough enough job without couch potato quaterbacking.
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posted on
08/24/2011 3:10:33 PM PDT
by
balticseaviking
(been there done that , Talked the talk and sure as hell walked the walk)
To: balticseaviking
“Anyhow the point is that LEOs have a tough enough time of it even back then so give them some slack they have a tough enough job without couch potato quaterbacking.”
Anyone who commits break and enter is not there to play tiddley-winks. Examples make for good deterrents. Dead ones make the best.
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posted on
08/24/2011 3:40:01 PM PDT
by
jivin gene
(Breakin' up is hard to do)
To: Arkansas Toothpick
If it was one of obuma’s “peeples,” he can now vote twice.
To: Scotsman will be Free
Not always. In some states, even blatant home defense incidents are sent to the grand jury as a matter of procedure. Both for fair treatment reasons and sometimes to protect the shooter - in some states, a grand jury no-bill will short circuit any civil actions that the deceased’s estate might file. Not referring it to the grand jury would result in the civil case going forward and a crapshoot with the civil jury, what with the “he was a good boy/turning his life around/aspiring musical artist/good athlete” BS that can be introduced there.
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posted on
08/24/2011 4:22:02 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Molon Labbie
LEO shooting ping - (bad guy shot)
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posted on
08/24/2011 5:18:17 PM PDT
by
Tainan
(Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
To: Arkansas Toothpick
A hundred unsolved crimes cleared, a hundred future crimes averted, and hopefully his family line ends with him.
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