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Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign
The American Spectator ^ | 8/23/2011 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 08/24/2011 7:21:44 AM PDT by chickadee

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To: Lorianne

...Bravo, my hat’s off to you! Saved me the trouble and I couldn’t have said it better...


41 posted on 08/24/2011 2:32:20 PM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: chickadee
Mark Levin supported Obama's war in Libya and his bypassing Congress. He said it was ok to go the UN for approval.

Mark Levin also supports amnesty queen Orrin Hatch.

He should probably STFU about who is conservative or not.

42 posted on 08/24/2011 2:43:42 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: RowdyFFC

Can you point to anything he has said that is against the Constitution? I’m not saying Paul hasn’t, at some point, said something that goes against the Constitution ... that is entirely possible because IT IS HARD to be consistent, particularly if you are a politician. But I have yet to see anyone provide a direct quote that illustrates this. Maybe you’ll be the first, who knows?

In the meantime, if we are talking the Constitution, no one who has run for President of the United States in over 100 years has been more consistent on the Constitution than Ron Paul. You can argue that someone is not perfectly consistent 100% of the time (no one would meet that standard), but you cannot argue that there is someone who has run for POTUS who has been more consistent on the Constitution than Paul.

Now, it may be that nominating a person who is the most consistent on the Constitution is NOT the best criteria for choosing a POTUS. That is a logical and valid point and one that I might agree with depending on the candidate. Other criteria may apply.

But to argue that a person is not conservative because they are not interventionist enough is pure cowardly chicken shiite and the author of this article knows it.

Just come out in the open and say you don’t like the guy. Period. Don’t say he’s not conservative or not consistent on the Constitution or any of this other BS. That is cowardly in a desperate, unmanly, hiding-behind-your-mama’s-skirts sort of way ...

I find it revolting that we’ve come to this point. Some people are no better than the sniveling, lying, infantile leftist media who tried to smear tea partiers as racists or smear Palin and her family.

Sick, sick , sick curs.

Maybe we deserve Obama after all.


43 posted on 08/24/2011 3:00:03 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Thank you.


44 posted on 08/24/2011 3:00:56 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: chickadee

ron paul’s foreign policy = surrender monkey.


45 posted on 08/24/2011 3:03:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lorianne

I already presented the quote....

To do away with drug crimes, we just need to get rid of ALL the drugs laws. Ron Paul

The man cannot see, nor recognize that there are legitimate drug laws promulgated by we the people.

OK, I don’t like the man. He’s a whacko isolationist that is so stupid he thinks the US can stand alone in this very dangerous world. He doesan’t seem to recognize that the Islamofascists FULLY INTEND to dominate the world. He’s a whacko that blames the US, JUST LIKE OBAMA DOES, for the crimes our enemies have committed against us. The man is a nasty campaigner, whom JUST LIKE OBAMA does, attacks everybody else on the slate with lies and tries to eliminate them so he can basically run uncontested because that’s the only way he can get elected.

I admit it. I do not like them because he is a nasty FROOOT LOOP! Hell his own son even distances himself from his father’s froot loop ideology.


46 posted on 08/24/2011 3:15:17 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

Where is the quote? I don’t see a direct quote from Ron Paul with a citation.

My understanding is that he is against FEDERAL drug laws. Which, whether you agree with him or not, is consistent with the Constitution.

I applaud you for stating you just don’t like the man. That is fine, I have no problem with people who don’t like him.

But people who smear a person for things he has not said and not advocated, they are liars and cowards who cannot fight fair and logically. They are no better than the lying leftists who smear tea partiers as racists and smear others that they don’t like with lies, rumors and innuendo.


47 posted on 08/24/2011 3:23:46 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: RowdyFFC; All

I would like to add ... if we PROTECTED OUR BORDERS as we should do and as is consistent with our Constitution, we would not need Federal drug laws.

First principals.


48 posted on 08/24/2011 3:33:17 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

I posted the citation. WHAT do you not understand by him saying that we should eliminate ALL drug laws to get rid of drug crime. Go find the videos, he’s said it several times.

WHAT do you not understand about him wanting to decimate our miltary defences in today’s world? When EVERY country on the planet is arming up! Mostly to take out the free world? This has absolutely NOTHING to do with him being a Constitutionalist. It has to do with him being CRAZY!

WHY would you defend this whacko who JUST LIKE BARACK OBAMA blames the US for the actions of our enemies? This also has nothing to do with him being a Constitutionalist. It has to do with him being CRAZY!


49 posted on 08/24/2011 3:34:33 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Lorianne

First principle...you vote for a man who is NOT CRAZY!


50 posted on 08/24/2011 3:35:49 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

I’m not defending Ron Paul

I’m defending not defaming people with stuff they have not said, have not done and have not advocated.

That is all.

You still haven’t provided a direct quote on the drug laws claim ... with a citation. If you have it, why wouldn’t you just post it?


51 posted on 08/24/2011 3:46:56 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Lorianne, he’s said in a half dozen videos that are on the web. It is well known to anybody that’s been paying attention that he’s said it. I posted the quote off another website and I am not going to post it again.

And I’ll stand by my first principle, for which that quote doesn’t even matter. You don’t vote for a crazy candidate. If you saw the Fox republican debates that should give you a hint clue. The man is completely out of control yelling and waving his arms around. Can you imagine how much time Putin or Medvedev would have for such nutsy cuckookoo behavior?


52 posted on 08/24/2011 5:44:03 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

It’s generally considered good form when you say that someone said something, to back it up with a cite.

Otherwise, people can run around saying people said stuff they didn’t say, did stuff they didn’t do, etc.

Like when they malign teapartiers spitting on black Congressmen and things like that.

The Golden Rule applies here.


53 posted on 08/24/2011 6:59:22 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: gitmogrunt
On July 4, 1821, John Quincy Adam gave an address to Congress:
Very true, but the context of the Monroe Docrtine is missing. The context was not an isolationist American, but an assertive America. We were telling Europe that we support Latin American democracies, taht colonialism is illegitimate in this hemisphere, and that we have an interest in keeping the European powers out. We were also, hypocritically, doing so in tandem with the British.
And if you really want to see how far non-interventionist this was, remember the Roosevelt Corollary

And speaking of hypocracy, we had not need to go abroad. In 1821, we were already an empire, founded as such, with dominion over the subject Indian Nations.

54 posted on 08/24/2011 7:54:11 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: globelamp
Just so everyone knows:

77% of Democrats (and Ron Paul) Voted Against Rules Of Engagement That Protect Our Troops
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/08/77_of_democrats_and_ron_paul_voted_against_rules_of_engagement_that_protect_our_troops.html

55 posted on 08/25/2011 6:16:41 AM PDT by seekthetruth (A President is sworn to uphold the Constitution. If he doesn't, IMPEACH him!)
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...Ever watch any documentary about the debate over the Declaration of Independence? Ron Paul is mild compared to that debate. Maybe Putin would d as Stalin did, executed him. As far as I know we still have debates...

...Lorianne is right, maybe we deserve BHO. The rest of these clowns on the left and right running for POTUS are all the same!!!

56 posted on 08/25/2011 11:25:53 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: chickadee

Ron Paul and his cult can only survive by lying about what Conservatives believe as strong foreign policy. Instead, they must try and claim that Conservatives are for endless wars and want to police the planet. Total BS and they know it.


57 posted on 08/26/2011 9:32:17 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks chickadee. Last six days or so, newest to oldest:
58 posted on 08/27/2011 6:17:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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