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To: editor-surveyor
The marina dist was a liquifaction problem, and nothing would have saved those bvuildings. They were built on wet fill.

A real red herring and irrelevant to the discussion referencing "bad urban planning."

Is any sane person going to resort to applying "good" planning now and wipe out all of the San Francisco Downtown area and a good portion of other residential areas near water? San Francisco is surrounded by water on three sides.

It is not reasonable to even suggest that entire towns and cities (and their infrastructure) be erased or moved to areas where there are no risks.
The best we can do is update constructrion methods and design skills as we gain knowledge and experience.
But nothing can ever be totally safe anywhere.

"Planners" are most of what ails communities and large areas. They are political animals, clueless about the consequences of their social engneering, or any engineering for that matter. Yet they are allowed to sway Councils and Supervisors everywhere, who are even more clueless than they are to pursue truly flawed ideas.

43 posted on 08/24/2011 10:52:42 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Publius6961

Plenty of good points.

However, I fail to understand how

greedy, self-serving, thoughtless, ignorant

LACK of planning

is inherently

and/OR significantly

BETTER

than greedy, self-serving, corrupt, politicized planning.


45 posted on 08/24/2011 11:26:43 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Publius6961

You’ve shown us that you don’t even know what a ‘red herring’ is.

I don’t give a damn what happens to Frisco, its a cesspool anyway, but the issue is not the proximity to water; Its building multi-story buildings on fill. Much of the Marina was once a part of the bay, but was filled in with the debris of the ‘06 quake, and then marketed as land to build on.

Don’t cry when thousands die in the rest of those mud based doll houses.


51 posted on 08/24/2011 1:39:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012!)
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