To: Durus
Except for the small problem that he's right. States have powers. Individuals have rights. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people". As I said to the other guy making a big deal about this, you are dealing in SEMANTICS. The federeal government is a government of limited and enumerated powers. The states hold the majority of the power in this country, or at least that's the way it is supposed to be. Don't pervert what I'm saying and try to infer from my mention of states' rights that I think states are superior to the people and that the people's rights are subservient to those of the state. It is the opposite, but that is OBVIOUS. The people exercise their wishes through their elected state legislatures and executive. The states have broad power to enact legislation.
43 posted on
08/22/2011 11:11:47 AM PDT by
10thAmendmentGuy
("It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." -Abraham Lincoln)
To: 10thAmendmentGuy
Neither the general government nor the state governments have the “right,” the “jurisdiction,” or the “power” to overturn the Natural Law.
They can try. But the result will be exactly the same as for every other group of men who tried to do so throughout history.
Reality and right can be very harsh when you put yourself on the wrong side of it.
47 posted on
08/22/2011 11:20:11 AM PDT by
EternalVigilance
(In the long run spritzing perfume on the rotting elephant really won't make that much difference.)
To: 10thAmendmentGuy
I'm not arguing semantics but facts. States have powers as specifically mentioned in the 10th amendment and the term "states rights" is an absurdity. The enumeration of powers in the federal constitution was designed to limit the powers of the federal government. For those that would gleefully ignore the obvious limitation inherent in the constitution, the 10th (and 9th) amendments were included. That does not mean that the states automatically have all powers not enumerated to the fed, as that isn't how 10th amendment reads. The federal government only has those powers that are enumerated just like the states only have those powers that are enumerated. The people reserve all other powers as rights. The people can cede these rights through the amendment process.
Or at least that was how it was supposed to work. Now federal government has all powers and is only (and just barely) limited in its usurpations by the bill of rights. States routinely usurp power and are only occasionally limited by their own constitutions.
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a particularly depressing example of both Federal and (many) States usurpations of power.
72 posted on
08/22/2011 11:59:27 AM PDT by
Durus
(You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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