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To: Mad Dawgg
Sorry but the Founding Fathers went to great lengths to stop the government from doing such.

If you think the founding fathers would have been a-okay with the normalization of homosexuality you're out of your mind. Every colony and then state had anti-sodomy laws and everyone was perfectly fine with such laws, and they were not considered unconstituional until a few faggots conspired to get them overturned via leftists at the SCOTUS. Thomas Jefferson, enlightened gentleman that he was, tried to get the Virginia laws against sodomy mandate mere castration and banishment instead of the death penalty. I think his lukewarm punishment didn't pass at the time, though.

156 posted on 08/23/2011 12:31:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
"If you think the founding fathers would have been a-okay with the normalization of homosexuality you're out of your mind."

Nice try on the straw man but let us review the points. Its not about normalization of anything. Its about the government staying out of people's private lives.

Marriage got along fine LONG BEFORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS FORMED. There is no need whatsoever for them to define it or get involved in it. The only obligation the government has in regards to marriage is the disposition of property and dependent children if the contract is broken either due to a court process (divorce) or death. The rest is none of their business.

The very reason we are in this brouhaha is because Government tried to Social Engineer Marriage. PERIOD! If Government had not handed out goodies to married couples there would be NO STANDING AT ALL for those who are trying to legalize Homosexual Marriage and multiple marriages.

157 posted on 08/23/2011 12:41:09 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: little jeremiah

Exactly right. Sodomy laws are the province of the individual states (or at least they were before the blatantly unconstitutional Lawrence decision). Gay marriage would have been so far from the minds of the Founding Fathers. The federal government has no right to force states to do anything on sodomy or marriage unless a constitutional amendment is passed that gives them that power. 38 states must assent to that power.


162 posted on 08/23/2011 12:53:23 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." -Abraham Lincoln)
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