[Mariner]

"Not really. He wants the border secured, Bush did not."

Bullsh!t. You're either ignorant of the facts or a liar.

Perry stated last year that he supports Vicente Fox's vision of a fully open border between Mexico and the USA.

Only prosperity keeping Mexicans in Mexico.

[jospehm20]

Actually, that speech was last decase, not last year, in 2001. You should probably read the whole thing instead of just taking one quote out of context. He adds a lot of qualifiers to that vision. Here is a link to it:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/jun/21/picket-perry-01-foxs-vision-open-border-vision-i-e/

So, as long as we are engaged in name calling, who is the liar and who is ignorant?

[Raider Sam]

No, he didnt.