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To: Scotswife

I did not think that a pro life website counted birth control pills as evil or an abortion.
You are not getting many converts on your side with that line of thought.
I am also sure that every child in this country is the perfect person, and not one has ever committed rape, murder, abuse, comitted crimes. What if if you were Ted Bundy’s mother?
Would you still love your child then? I would not.
That is what I mean by finding out that I would not like my child as a person, if said child was a creep.
And I am free!Jealous?
I also feel that I have a right to criticize the Catholic religion. If I was not a ex Catholic, I would feel it is none of my business. However- I was baptized,had communion, confirmation, and Sunday School in the Catholic Church. The Church has issues, do not deny it.
I do think you are like the Taliban. Take for example a woman- virgin at marriage. The only acceptable birth control you preach is abstinence ( does not work in a marriage), rhythmn method, condoms.
Why should a married couple use condoms?
So, since comdoms are out, there is only two other options available.
Remember, the man does not get pregnant, the woman does.
Therefore, pregnancy after pregnancy occurs.
After multiple pregnancies, the husband takes off.
What happens to the woman?
Poverty ensues.
That is what you want.


679 posted on 08/23/2011 7:22:17 PM PDT by kaila
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To: kaila

jealous? no - not one tiny bit. Thanks for asking though. You are obviously very pleased with yourself.

I know I’m not going to “convert” you - that isn’t my point.

At least you’re being more honest now.
You first came on here claiming you were worried this kind of talk would get Obama reelected - as if it is somehow news to everyone that the Church opposes artificial birth control.

I never said you don’t have the right to criticize anything. You are the one who came on here trying to stifle the catholics - acting all (in your own words) “high and mighty”

“I do think you are like the Taliban.”

That is crazy talk and you know it. It says alot more about you than about any catholics on this board.

You aren’t exactly winning yourself any converts either while spewing this poison.
We get it - you don’t like us.
Here’s the thing - we aren’t going anywhere, and we aren’t going to shut up either.

After the 2008 election there was alot of griping on FR about the “catholic vote”. After it was analyzed, they realized - catholics who think more along the lines you do - oppose the church on bc, abortion. The “social justice” crowd....they were obots.
The catholics who support the pope? Support church teaching?
They were strong opponents of Obama - a solid republican majority.

You see? you are zeroing in on the wrong catholics. As much as you hate us - we have your back in the voting booth.
Maybe next november that will give you at least one thing to thank the pope for.

now if you excuse me...I’m going to make sure all my future creepy seriel killers are asleep like they should be....while barefoot - of course. ;)


680 posted on 08/23/2011 7:54:40 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: kaila

Oh I just love when untruths are uncovered. Catholic religious education is called CCD or Catechism not Sunday School.

All Christian religions teach that sex is for within marriage only so yes they all say you should be a virgin before marriage.

Why isn’t abortion justified if it might eliminate a future Ted Bundy?

Natural Family Planning is effective. So yes abstinence does work in marriage.

It is not a given that a husband will always abandon his family after they have more than a certain number of children.

You should educated yourself. Until the 1930 Lambeth Conference all mainline Protestant Churches condemned artificial birth control.

You are ompletely lacking in any understanding of Christian Anthropology and might be surprised to learn there are Protestants who believe the use of artificial contraception is wrong. It is not just a Catholic issue.

Every one of your arguments could be used to support abortion. So why shouldn’t they be?

S


681 posted on 08/23/2011 7:56:15 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: kaila; Scotswife
And I am free!Jealous?

No.

You have chosen to never have a set of pudgy little arms wrap around your neck and hear a sweet mouth whisper "I love you Mommy".

You have chosen to never have a sweet trusting little face look at you like you can do ANYTHING.

You have chosen to never kiss a "boo-boo" and make it feel better.

You have chosen to never help a confused little person with homework and experience the moment of understanding.

You have chosen to never attend a recital and tell the little person that they were wonderful.

You have chosen to never be rewarded for love with a fistful of weeds they think are flowers.

You have chosen to never laugh, cry or share a victory with a child that you nurtured.

Because you have chosen YOU.

682 posted on 08/23/2011 8:06:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: kaila; Scotswife; Salvation; NYer; Dr. Brian Kopp; Cronos; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; trisham; ...
I did not think that a pro life website counted birth control pills as evil or an abortion.

Again, NOBODY on this thread has ever suggested banning contraception. This thread is about the FACT that contraception has not decreased abortion.

I am also sure that every child in this country is the perfect person, and not one has ever committed rape, murder, abuse, comitted crimes. What if if you were Ted Bundy’s mother?
Would you still love your child then? I would not.

This is your reason?

Obviously, you have grave doubts about your ability to be a parent if you believe there is a real likelihood that your child would grow up to be like Ted Bundy.

That is what I mean by finding out that I would not like my child as a person, if said child was a creep.

I'm guessing it's far more likely a child would think you were a creep.

I also feel that I have a right to criticize the Catholic religion. If I was not a ex Catholic, I would feel it is none of my business. However- I was baptized,had communion, confirmation, and Sunday School in the Catholic Church.

You're embarrassing yourself here. The Catholic Church DOES NOT HAVE AND NEVER HAS HAD a program of religious education/study called "Sunday school" and someone who was raised Catholic would know this.

I do think you are like the Taliban. Take for example a woman- virgin at marriage. The only acceptable birth control you preach is abstinence ( does not work in a marriage), rhythmn method, condoms.

So, now you say that conservatives are like the TALIBAN for thinking that people should abstain from sex before they are married? You are really on the wrong forum.

691 posted on 08/24/2011 5:34:02 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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