This is exactly the kind of facile language reading to incorrect conclusions that has become so rife among the conervative Taliban.
The problem is "fail and are used improperly." First, the scientifically correct inference is that by a very large statistical margin of error they fail because they are not used properly, or are not used at all. And because Vlad won't reveal his sources, we have to fall back on summary results rather then details of the study to find out what was really going on.
This sounds like that old personal responsibility issue. And as for self-control. If these animals as you call them cannot exercise enough self-control to use prophylaxis consistently and properly, how are you going to get them to abstain from sex all together.
Moreover, several folks here would deny married couples the use of contraceptives, even if they are responsible parents, on the grounds that they might fail.
A 98% or 99.7% probability that one can finish schooling and get a job before having to support a family is pretty good odds, much better odds than the probability of successfully finishing an advanced degree, or deferred undergraduate degree for that matter.
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Perhaps you might point out where a poster on this thread suggested making contraceptives illegal.
“This is exactly the kind of facile language reading to incorrect conclusions that has become so rife among the conervative Taliban.”
So I’m a Taliban? What, am I on DU or FR?
“The problem is “fail and are used improperly.” First, the scientifically correct inference is that by a very large statistical margin of error they fail because they are not used properly,”
Which is my point in the real world you have to take actual failure rates into account. The number 1 to 2 percent failure rate in the ideal is useless. The ideal doesn’t exist, except maybe in clinical trials. Ask any design engineer, if a 1 or 2 percent building failure is acceptable.
“we have to fall back on summary results”
Balderdash. It’s all there for you in the link which I posted for your convenience.
“If these animals as you call them”
Do not put words in my mouth. People are people. People make mistakes and these have to be taken into account.
“how are you going to get them to abstain from sex all together.”
Abstaining is easy. You don’t actually have to do anything. Just say no when it comes up until you are ready. No fiddling with a condom. No praying that it’s not old or doesn’t break. No counting pills and making sure you take them everyday.
“Moreover, several folks here would deny married couples the use of contraceptives, even if they are responsible parents, on the grounds that they might fail.”
Actually, that’s not the grounds. I’m opposed to it because I believe it impairs the union between husband and wife with a couple inches of latex.
“A 98% or 99.7% probability that one can finish schooling and get a job before having to support a family is pretty good odds, much better odds than the probability of successfully finishing an advanced degree, or deferred undergraduate degree for that matter.”
Unfortunately, the real world intervenes.