Posted on 08/20/2011 1:53:21 PM PDT by wagglebee
I’m having a blast, nasty thread though. I hate to see the name calling and false accusations here though over simple disagreements.
Oh, sorry Las Vegas! There was a long line this morning lining up outside of my bedroom (boy, are they going to be disappointed!!) demanding entry - at least that was said by some who were accusing poor Vlad of wanting to do that. I got mixed up! Sorry about that, lol.
Do you play requests? I need lots of big band music to really relax me.
Oh believe me, I know. It’s a good thing termites aren’t wrecking the deck. I’ve got fish to fry.
Ain't no thang.....I'll go back to working on my typing skills now! (after that last post of mine ;))
I am not surprised are dependent upon something. At least it is only Glenn Miller Benny Goodman. It is a shame it isn’t truth or knowledge.
Plenty of people just don’t like to click multiple links, especially when their viewpoint is in opposition. Nothing to do with finger injury.
First, contraception is different than a morning after pill, but second, my war is on the absolutism of the absolutists around here. Tell me this, how do you abort a baby with a condom?
What is his plan? When and where did he reveal it to you? Is penicillin part of God's plan, or is it God's plan that we are supposed to die at an early age from chance bacterial infections? Was Flemming interefering with God's plan?
We just want to know since apparently you have so much greater insight in the will of God than the rest of us.
It wouldn’t solve the 2-3 weeks of bleeding every month.
I had problems on the pill, and I had been on it too long that’s why I didn’t go on that.
The IUD completely fixed the problem. I think I would have had to have surgery or something else more drastic.
Actually Vlad, when you make a statement that defies common sense and common experience the onus is on you to offer substantive evidence of your claim and not the person who doubts you.
In the scientific world, if someone publishes an article claiming the moon is made of green cheese and I rely on that which is contrary to good sense and common knowledge, the embarassment is entirely on me and not on the other crank who made the original claim. Indeed, in such a case before I can get away with relying on the cheesiness of the moon I would need to provide overwhelming evidence, like several cheese samples produced by several Moose who independently traveled to the moon to retrieve the samples, videotape recordings of the whole proceedings, independent eyewitness evidence that I even launched the questionable Moose into space, etc.
You don't just get to stand back and tell someone else to disprove that which they doubt. The moral and intellectual burden is all on you.
…the most important foundation of society to keep safe and healthy, physically, morally and spiritually, is the family. If the family is suffering physical, mental and spiritual degradation, society is placed in grave peril, as has repeatedly been the case in past civilizations…
[The Culture Of Life: Presuppositions And Dimensions, General Assembly of the Pontifical Academy for Life, March 1 - 4, 2001, (Unofficial results), By Mercedes Arzú Wilson] That's quite a source you cite there, why didn't you include the whole thing?
You are missing my point. You were sarcastic. You tried to pass the buck to another poster. Then you tried to deny it.
You are missing my point. You were sarcastic. You tried to pass the buck to another poster. Then you tried to deny it.
You wrote:
“Actually Vlad, when you make a statement that defies common sense and common experience the onus is on you to offer substantive evidence of your claim and not the person who doubts you.”
Since what I said neither defied common sense of common experience - among those who have a clue - your claim makes no sense. Libs have no clue about this because they have never looked into it.
“In the scientific world, if someone publishes an article claiming the moon is made of green cheese and I rely on that which is contrary to good sense and common knowledge, the embarassment is entirely on me and not on the other crank who made the original claim.”
Since what I said was absolutely correct - and there’s proof of that easily available online - I feel no embarrassment at all. Again, google. It’s easy.
“Indeed, in such a case before I can get away with relying on the cheesiness of the moon I would need to provide overwhelming evidence, like several cheese samples produced by several Moose who independently traveled to the moon to retrieve the samples, videotape recordings of the whole proceedings, independent eyewitness evidence that I even launched the questionable Moose into space, etc.”
Wow, the length you libs will go to to avoid using google is amazing.
“You don’t just get to stand back and tell someone else to disprove that which they doubt.”
I simply told everyone to look it up online. It’s easy. I already did it (more than once). I am sure you can do it too. Try. What are you afraid of?
“The moral and intellectual burden is all on you.”
Not. One. Bit. It’s all yours.
Actually there is. It is for rhetorical effect. I have a lot of experience debating these "trolls" {did it again). They attempt to avoid fact and logic while casting moral dudgeon on folks they know nothing about as if they are uniquely attuned to the voice of God. So, you ridicule them, call them names, insult their manhood, and say foul things about their slovenly arguments to enrage them and draw them out, like a picador in a bull fight. Then they charge at the silly red flag and you can have your way with them.
I am quite prepared for an extended argument, one that they will forever attempt to evade - like they are here - until they are drawn into it.
No, I do not for a minute confuse rhetorical devices for good argument. But THEY do, and I am not averse to employing these devices to get them to make a point that one can then debate and then get them actually to debate the point.
You wrote:
“What is his plan?”
It is not contraceptives.
“When and where did he reveal it to you?”
Never did. He did reveal it to the Church, however and all Protestants knew it until about 1932.
“Is penicillin part of God’s plan, or is it God’s plan that we are supposed to die at an early age from chance bacterial infections? Was Flemming interefering with God’s plan?”
No, cures are not a violation of God’s plan. Pregnancy is not a disease. I am not surprised you apparently consider it to be. You and Planned Parenthood have much in common.
“We just want to know since apparently you have so much greater insight in the will of God than the rest of us.”
Crack open the CCC. Learn. Read Humanae Vitae.
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