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Birth Control, Contraception Don’t Stop Abortion, Help Women
Life News ^ | 8/19/11 | Kristan Hawkins

Posted on 08/20/2011 1:53:21 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: vladimir998; trisham; Las Vegas Ron
I can back up everything I said. I am just choosing not to do so.

No. You can't. And everyone reading the thread knows it. Honest people defend their statements. Liars obfuscate.

I have already wasted too much precious time proving that you lied.

You have a nice evening.

341 posted on 08/21/2011 3:50:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Anyone that he'd defend would go to the gallows.

Night Ron!

342 posted on 08/21/2011 3:51:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: eyedigress

Never needed any. I just let you work for me for no pay. Generally your work is worth the same as you pay, but this time you came through.


343 posted on 08/21/2011 3:53:16 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: eyedigress

Never needed any. I just let you work for me for no pay. Generally your work is worth the same as your pay, but this time you came through.


344 posted on 08/21/2011 3:53:37 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Thks.


345 posted on 08/21/2011 3:54:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You wrote:

“No. You can’t. And everyone reading the thread knows it.”

Not if they use google they don’t. The answers are right there.

“Honest people defend their statements. Liars obfuscate.”

No, actually honest people can just post the truth and let the chips fall where they may. Some people will refuse to see the truth even when it is just a few clicks away on google.

“I have already wasted too much precious time proving that you lied.”

Then you have truly failed because I didn’t lie. Again, google.

“You have a nice evening.”

I will. You, however, probably will be churning away on this all night.


346 posted on 08/21/2011 3:56:58 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Are you sure you don’t need any more help? I am here at the ready switch.


347 posted on 08/21/2011 3:58:51 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: little jeremiah
Is that too difficult for you?

Sure you weren't trying to be sarcastic. I'm sure you were really concerned, thinking that I had a finger injury, and it might be too much for the injury to use an additional click.

348 posted on 08/21/2011 4:00:08 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: vladimir998; DJ MacWoW
I will. You, however, probably will be churning away on this all night.


349 posted on 08/21/2011 4:00:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: eyedigress

No, that’s okay. After you proved your hypocrisy, I think you can call it a night.


350 posted on 08/21/2011 4:01:42 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: DJ MacWoW

“There is no such statistic and your continued failure to provide it proves that”

I believe that any lawyer worth his salt would label this argument as an argument from silence.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If you sincerely believe that your claim is correct, then it is up to you to actually refute his argument.


351 posted on 08/21/2011 4:01:57 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thanks for proving my point.


352 posted on 08/21/2011 4:02:51 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Vlad has said - quite clearly - that he has posted his stats in past threads - but he chooses not to do so because he has already done so. Why don’t you guys let it go at that?

You guys are the same people - who this morning - accuse Vlad of wanting to get into my bedroom to see what I was up to, lol. I’m here to assure you that Vlad has never asked to see my bedroom. In fact, I’m fairly sure the whole idea would turn him off.

In other words, get off his case. He’s got his point of view, I’ve got mine and you’ve got yours. That’s what FR is all about.


353 posted on 08/21/2011 4:04:00 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Night, night to you too FRiend!!


354 posted on 08/21/2011 4:05:15 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: vladimir998; Las Vegas Ron

Uh oh! Hypocrisy #2 coming up.


355 posted on 08/21/2011 4:05:22 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: BenKenobi

BenKenobi, you’re wasting your time. I saw the info this morning after a ten second search on google. These people are too lazy to do even that. No amount of evidence will convince them. They support moral evil and there’s no changing their minds. Only God could sway them. Remember, they’re too lazy to even use google for ten seconds.


356 posted on 08/21/2011 4:06:09 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Have some fun, it is Sunday.


357 posted on 08/21/2011 4:06:25 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: miss marmelstein

Thanks. They could easily find the info with a google search. They won’t do it. I see no reason to help them.


358 posted on 08/21/2011 4:07:51 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: miss marmelstein
You guys are the same people - who this morning - accuse Vlad of wanting to get into my bedroom to see what I was up to, lol.

Excuse me, I didn't dive into this mes until this afternoon.

I have no desire to get into your bedroom let alone dictate how you run your live....or what if any BC you use..

None of my bidness.

359 posted on 08/21/2011 4:14:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Actually the failure rate is relatively high and the bad effects on marriage are common.”

DJ:

http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/193/36/

Couples that refuse to use contraception or employ natural family planning had statistically significant associations with the following description over couples that chose to use contraception.

“have a dramatically low (0.2%) divorce rate;”
“experience happier marriages;”
“are happier and more satisfied in their everyday lives;”
“have considerably more marital relations;”
“share a deeper intimacy with spouse than those who contracept;”
“realize a deeper level of communication with spouse;”
“have relatively large families with many children;”
“are appreciably more religious and attend church more often;”
“incorporate prayer more in their daily lives;”
“rely strongly on the teachings of the Church, the Bible and Almighty God;”
“are personally happier;”
“have strong traditional, social, and moral views;”
“preserve the family unit more responsibly than the other groups;.”
“are unlikely to have ever had an abortion;”
“are unlikely to have ever cohabitated;”
“are unlikely to work full time;”
“are unlikely to be supportive of and to engage in sex outside of marriage;”

If you have further questions, feel free to ask and I will answer any questions that you do have.

Like vlad, I do not believe that unity should be preserved at the consequence of truth. Contraception use hurts marriage profoundly, and we have been working through the consequences thereof over the last 70 years since Lambeth.


360 posted on 08/21/2011 4:14:18 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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