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Chew on that Obummer.


A sign outside a business in West Tisbury, Mass., welcomed the Obamas to Martha’s Vineyard for their 10 day stay.

1 posted on 08/20/2011 1:32:09 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Coming from an open borders and amnesty for illegals politician, this is certainly no surprise. At least he is consistently a RINO, gotta give him that.


137 posted on 08/20/2011 3:25:57 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Many Italian immigrants came here to escape serving under Mussolini and served in the US Army to gain citizenship.
I have absolutely no problem with this for people of any nationality.


141 posted on 08/20/2011 3:29:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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Foreign Nationals can and do serve in the US Military...Phillipinos have done so for decades.

But illegal aliens?? I cannot imagine how you would ever get past the recruiting station if you did not have valid citizenship, and who would be stupid enough to try??

Straw man...


153 posted on 08/20/2011 3:44:18 PM PDT by Bean Counter ("For every man there exists a bait he cannot resist swallowing.".....Nietzsche)
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The bigger question is why are they allowed in the military in the first place?


185 posted on 08/20/2011 4:13:14 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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I am very much against illegal immigration. I’d find it hard to not support giving green cards to illegal immigrants that have served in combat, but how did these people get in the military in the first place? Didn’t they have to commit fraud to get in? Proferring fake identification documents in order to enlist in the military is a crime, isn’t it? Isn’t it, in fact, a crime more serious than the simple act of crossing the border? Why reward people for committing identify fraud? I think we need measures put in place that ensure illegal immigrants currently in the military get kicked out, and that illegal immigrants can no longer get into the military.


189 posted on 08/20/2011 4:15:18 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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Looks like Perry will be a great choice based on the negative posters. They are doing everything they can to discredit him. Typical left assignation.
194 posted on 08/20/2011 4:21:37 PM PDT by Logical me
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How can someone who broke our laws to come here and continue to spit in our eye serve HONORABLY ANYTHING????


203 posted on 08/20/2011 4:32:04 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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Exactly how does a law breaking illegal get into the military.

I remember decades ago while serving in Germany, many young German men signed up for getting into US forces, but they did so while on German soil.


235 posted on 08/20/2011 5:06:06 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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I don’t have a problem with this position. Back in the day, military service was the only way for barbarians to become Roman citizens.


246 posted on 08/20/2011 5:23:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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I agree. Our first line of defense deserves recognition and what better way to give it, illegal or not.

Can’t be that many.


250 posted on 08/20/2011 5:36:13 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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There was a time when any foreigner who served in the US military was granted immediate citizenship. a DD214 was as good as naturalization papers and a birth certificate.

No more.


256 posted on 08/20/2011 5:42:32 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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Lessse, were supposed to be at war, and your boy says people that enter this country illegally, during wartime no less, can serve in the military, and then awarded citizenship.

Good God, ya just can't make this stuff up.

271 posted on 08/20/2011 6:06:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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281 posted on 08/20/2011 6:40:30 PM PDT by HiJinx ("The wealthy and satisfied do not migrate, they stagnate." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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I appreciate Rick Perry proving that he is an arrogant historical ignoramus (ie Democrat or liberal). Illegal Aliens in the military is a threat to America. Anyone who says otherwise should study the Fall of the Western Roman Empire.


292 posted on 08/20/2011 6:58:28 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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You've got to be kidding me.

Did he really say this?

How on earth are you going to defend that as good?

300 posted on 08/20/2011 7:32:50 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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What Perry should be for is legal immigrants who serve in our military should have a faster path to citizenship than those who don’t.


304 posted on 08/20/2011 7:39:34 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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Full-out pandering!

Indefensible.


311 posted on 08/20/2011 7:50:18 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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IIRC fraudulent enlistment is a crime and a violation of the UCMJ. Illegal entry into the U.S. makes them criminals or fugitives from justice in my book.

Legal Immigrants who have passed through all legal requirements for permenant residence I can see granting citizenship too in exchange for military service IF several conditions are met first including, the ability to read & speak the English language at a U.S. high school level, an extensive back ground check with no security clearances/access above confidential given first enlistment, and citizenship only upon completion of obligated service with an Honorable Discharge. At no time should these waivers exceed 5% of the total End Troop Strength of any branch of service at any time. That number would likely be close to 50,000.

Perry is a first class NATU Shill it sure sounds like. A remake of GW Bush foreign policy we do not need at this point in time.

319 posted on 08/20/2011 8:06:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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They wont let someone join if they have bad eyesight in one eye/ear but they will let some Mexican who hates the USA to join up for the benefits?


325 posted on 08/20/2011 8:23:46 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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I agree - they should STOP at a date certain [say 1 OCT 2011] letting these illegals in the military ...

OTOH, those that are already in should be grandfathered - especially if they have served with distinction in Afghanistan and/or Iraq ...

Give them an extra bennie - full citizenship, IF they serve the FULL 20 years to retirement ...

Those that choose to get out before 20 years get an Honorable Discharge [if they have earned it] AND a free first-class ticket home [and a military escort to the airport] ...


341 posted on 08/20/2011 9:24:52 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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