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To: driftdiver
"That is incorrect, you're use of the people you did was intentional and was nonsense."

What?? Flat wrong, and demonstrably so. I didn't compare them to Madison, I provided you examples of American leadership who have taken steps to protect the rights of Americans to travel freely abroad in response to your "Says who" question. The distinction is confusing to you?

"Actually I am entirely ambivalent about it."

Your comments, including, “These ‘young kids’ made their bed and now they can sleep in it,” suggests otherwise; it suggests some enthusiasm, as does your continued arguing about it.

"They aren't fellow citizens,"

So in addition to happily consigning them to prison on trumped up charges, you've also unilaterally strippd them of their citizenship...wow.

"...its well known they are communists"

Please provide an unimpeachable source for this.

"...and hate the America I love."

Would the America you love be the one that happily allows its citizens to be incarcerated on bogus multi-year espionage charges? To be beaten and mistreated while in prison? The one that effectively strips citizens of their human rights because you don't agree with their political views?

"They seek to "change" our system. They further compounded their beliefs by going where they did."

Huh? Not that the sentence makes much sense, but is their some relationship between communist orthodoxy and Iraqi-Kurdistan that has been lost to history?

"I have no idea if they were spying or what."

But you're 100% certain that they are communists, America haters, etc? Why the uncertainty about whether they were secretly American spies, and if so, why so happy to assume that they made their bed and have to lie in it? Wouldn't your admitted uncertainty about their guilt give you some pause about the justness of their detention? Incedentially, do you think America-hating communists is usually the domestic personel pool from which the CIA recruits officers to send to Islamic countries? If they were America-hating commies, attempting to undermine our system, isn't more likely that Iran would approve of them, not imprison them? This is just pathetic.

"All your fancy quotes doesn't change your pure hypocritical nonsense."

Fancy quotes, lol. There's lots of 'fancy quotes' that describe, delimit and protect the fundamental nature and individual rights of the America you claim to love - you should really look into them. As for "hypocritical nonsense," did you just throw that phrase in for fun? It doesn't logically refer to anything we've discussed.

188 posted on 08/22/2011 6:34:16 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

Its fun watching you try to wiggle your way out of the hole you’ve dug.


191 posted on 08/22/2011 6:55:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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