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To: Beelzebubba; Surrounded_too
There will be a lot of animal destruction if they enforce Martial Law or use extra legal, executive controlled, Gestapo-like forces and they will get away with it.

That’s a terror tactic to gain psychological control. A lot of people could be destroyed, too, for resisting tyranny.

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Our militarized “Law Enforcement” is the standing army our Founders feared.


While I agree that in this day and age there are too many of us being hired that have "power trip" issues and honestly shouldn't be in law enforcement my main question would be exactly what gives the Federal Government, even in a "Martial Law" situation the right to give any local deputy or police officer direct orders to do anything?

I know half of my department who would laugh, toss a middle finger at the Fed Bureaucrat and leave our badges spinning while we left with all our gear to go and protect our families against said federal tyranny.

Nonetheless I know of no policy for any department around here (including my own) that would relinquish command in part or in whole to any Fed whom was trying to go against the citizens' constitutional rights. We're not military, we're not wholly owned by "The Government" like the military. We're sworn citizens that have a job. I can legally and willingly and would question a Federal Bureaucrat's orders, a Fed or military person cannot.

I can think of no situation nor any law where my Chief, nor any officer would allow his command to be absolved and our department become "gestapo" in the name of Government Tyranny.

I know a lot of law enforcement officers. Saying willy-nilly that "the police would become gestapo drones" is assuming a lot and without precedence here in the US. I just can't fathom the process by which any local police agency would simply relinquish itself to a "nazi-like regime".

I mean, even at the lowest level, for instance, every police department has different SOP's. Every police department has different types of training. Every state has different laws regarding police powers. How exactly could the police become a "standing army"? There is absolutely no way hundreds or even just tens of departments could effectively work together as a "standing army". It's logistically impossible. Half of the police departments in the US have mediocre equipment at best and there are many normal non-LEO citizens that have way more firepower than most police departments.

I just don't see any logic in how the Feds could conscript all local law enforcement into one giant gestapo army. It's simply logistically impossible. It would be a mess and such a thing would be destroyed quickly. It would be suicide for any police officer to submit to being a "nazi-drone of the government".
39 posted on 08/19/2011 9:34:47 PM PDT by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great sight for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: brent13a
"I just don't see any logic in how the Feds could conscript all local law enforcement into one giant gestapo army. It's simply logistically impossible. It would be a mess and such a thing would be destroyed quickly. It would be suicide for any police officer to submit to being a "nazi-drone of the government. The MAJORITY of agents of the state won't think TWICE before carrying the State's orders! To think anything else is to not be prepared.
51 posted on 08/20/2011 12:55:57 AM PDT by bertrand
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To: brent13a

what gives the Federal Government, even in a “Martial Law” situation the right to give any local deputy or police officer direct orders to do anything?

I know half of my department who would laugh, toss a middle finger at the Fed Bureaucrat and leave our badges spinning while we left with all our gear to go and protect our families against said federal tyranny.


First, most departments have military equipment and training funded by the feds.

Second, when states and cites go bankrupt, the fed will own the local departments. Show me a government union employee that won’t “follow orders” to ensure his paycheck or pension.

Third, I’m not worried about the “half” that would ignore the feds, I’m worried about the other half.


61 posted on 08/20/2011 5:28:56 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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